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The new Micro~~soft~~slop copilot key always sends the following key-sequence when pressed:

copilot key down: left-shift-down left-meta-down f23-down f23-up left-meta-up left-shift-up
copilot key up: <null>

This means there's no real key-up event when you release the key --> it can't be used (properly) as a modifier like ctrl or alt.

The workaround is to send a pretend key-up event after a time delay, but then you mustn't be too slow / fast when pressing a shortcut.

tldr: AI took a perfectly working modifier key from you.

--- edit ---
Some keyboards apparently do the "right" thing and don't send the whole sequence at once, you can remap those properly with keyd, see: https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd/issues/1025#issuecomment-2971556563 / https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd/issues/825

copilot key down: left-shift-down left-meta-down f23-down
copilot key up: f23-up left-meta-up left-shift-up

this will still break left-shift + remapped copilot and left-meta + remapped copilot, but RCtrl remaps should work as expected

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 156 points 4 weeks ago

Congrats Microsoft, you managed to enshittify a goddamn keyboard key.

[–] morto@piefed.social 60 points 1 month ago (12 children)

And they took the place of a useful key to put that

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I reckon the co pilot key is used more than the key it replaced. I dont even know what that key did.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 weeks ago

On laptops it usually replaces right ctrl, sometimes right alt.
Both these are needed to make lots of shortcuts viable, or possible at all with one hand.

right alt is also an importand 3rd shift layer for many languages' keyboards, hence them replacing right ctr often instead of the less popular alt.

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[–] spacelord@sh.itjust.works 49 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Doesn't seem to be present on my keyboard. 😁 keyboard image

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 22 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oh, wow. There it is. The keyboard of my dreams.
Using one of these while on acid does not seem advisable, though.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the Bixby Button all over again.

[–] attero@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

It's arguably worse, because Samsung has full control over software, hardware, and firmware of their devices.
Even if MS would like to fix this mess, they can't.

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[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 34 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

*Sry for the washed out colors. This was originally an HDR video.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Leave it in HDR next time. As someone who owns an HDR monitor and a phone with an HDR display, there is simply not enough content out there outside of movies and games.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did Microsoft demand vendors include such a button with those specs? If not, that sounds like a vendor issue, and I'd be looking at other vendors. Either way I'm happy to use keyboards/OSs without that "feature."

[–] attero@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

copilotPC requirements

It is/was required for vendors to use the AI PC / Copilot+ label and Microsoft "invented" the key-sequence.
src: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/26/24112500/microsoft-ai-pc-intel-windows-copilot-key-requirements

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So to be clear, this key sequence is just how windows interpret the key, the hardware is exactly the same and any other OS can still use it as the context menu key?

Edit : oh, just saw the thing about the linux workaround. So no, they actually fucked it up on hardware level. Wow.

[–] attero@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nope, the hardware / keyboard controller sends a complete key sequence instead of a distinguishable key-up and key-down event. The OS can interpret that sequence as it sees fit, but you loose the physical key-up signal when you release the key with your finger.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AI PC / Copilot+ label

Okay that sounds solvable, at least. I mean, I hate it, but it seems that a person is getting what they pay for here. Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully there will be plenty of non-AI PC / Copilot+ computers and keyboards.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

Its not immune from removal via knife

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 26 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Noted. Do not buy used laptops with microslop cancer button.

A shame because they're all still good hardware. Just don't want to deal with the cursed button.

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[–] texture@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

happy to be typing this comment on a framework laptop, where no such key is to be found.

interesting post, and thanks for the info. i cant believe the crap MS pulls. Linux is easier than ever. Join us.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Just don't buy an AI slop PC and get a Thinkpad, or a Framework laptop instead. Vote with your wallet. If you already own an AI PC, well, OP's post might help.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

all new thinkpads have copilot buttons

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago
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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Pretty sure MS made this a "standard keyboard" button, which could mean it needs to be included for the OEM to be able to put windows on the machine.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The WHATNOW is impossible to properly remap?

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago

That nuisance you pop off with a flathead screwdriver and throw in the trash can.

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

If this garbage is on my keyboard I will drill that motherfucker out no second thought

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a Lenovo usb keyboard with a fn Key in place of the Ctrl key that has absolutely no purpose. It's for volume control like fn+F7 BUT... IT ALSO HAS DEDICATED BUTTONS FOR VOLUME CONTROL!!

After the nth time I accidentally switched fn and Ctrl I took a screwdriver and popped it out permanently (being USB it doesn't report fn status to the os and of course the BIOS doesn't allow FN remapping because it's not a laptop)

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[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

An embarrassing new low, even with the bars they've already set. And fitting, for this being the (egregiously multiply-) branded button to launch the shit show. Christ, this has been a fucking carnival lmao.

Microslop has now regressed to implementing "features" very closely resembling - in sophistication and effect - my own bumbling, desperate, ignorant attempts at similar ("making a button behave like a macro"), using AutoHotKey, somewhere between 15-20 years ago.

And do I understand that they both shipped that, on hardware, AND it's broken so badly it can't be easily remedied?

I don't know what to say. It's like all the geniuses of comedy who died too young are doing this, all of it.


(No shade whatsoever to AHK, it was, probably still is, awesome at its job!)


Edit: suddenly realized it's just on purpose, probably. Anyway, rant remains lol

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would you buy this garbage?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 28 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

It is shocking difficult to buy a new laptop without one. Yes, I know about Framework, System 76, etc, but go to your local big box store and every laptop is covered in either Microsoft logos or Apple logos.

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[–] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Never thought I'd say this... I'm considering a Mac as my next laptop.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Base model Macbook Airs are very hard to beat for price:performance, especially now the new base model has 16gb of RAM. I've been to numerous local computer shops and felt and tried numerous Windows laptops that were around the same price and they all felt like flimsy plastic trash.

The Mac Mini is also very good for its price and size. My dad is considering a base model Mini to replace his Windows office computer which is on 10 and reached EOL and he doesn't want 11.

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[–] attero@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

You might wanna start getting used to pressing command with your thumb, instead of ctrl with your pinkie then:

Here's my rant about inconsistent keyboard shortcuts on non-macOS systems:
https://mastodon.social/@attero/115771231064736124

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

You can remap that key on a hardware level with a little flathead screwdriver. 🪛 🗑️

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it? I mean, if I have Linux installed, you know.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah... All the tools in Linux are going to do this weird thing where they expect it to behave like a normal key. So you'd have to do all the hacks mentioned to make it work. For example, GNOME keybind stops detecting the key bind when you release. Etc. Maybe the kernel will accept a “broken copilot key hack“ that implements it but it's not good.

Even with hacks, it still won't work like a modifier like most people use alt/ctrl/win because those rely on knowing the key up to see multiple keys pressed together before release. So... Broken.

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[–] fortino@europe.pub 12 points 4 weeks ago

Another great product of Free Market Capitalism ©

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

My ThinkPad has one and it is just kinda there... despite it supposedly being remapable since Kernel 6.16 or so I can't get it to properly remap.

I'd love to map it to open LM Studio lol

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 weeks ago

so fucking stupid

[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 9 points 4 weeks ago

Everything is remapable if you are good enough at soldering

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was able to remap it with Autohotkey on Windows.

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