Excuse me, where is Middle Management Orc who was willing to argue with Saruman himself about realistic production targets
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Yeah I really messed up there. Let's just say he probably got turned into warg poop for being too sassy.
I am the “why can’t we have some meat” guy.
All we got is maggoty bread.
#2, but the one with the mustaches on the right.
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Is there a difference between orcs and gobelins in lotr ?
Goblins only appear in The Hobbit iirc. There is a difference between orcs and uruk-hai, and I think the one in the lower left (#7) is an uruk-hai and not an orc.
Technically an uruki-hai is an orc from another brother. One theory was orcs doing the nasty with humans, think Treebeard said that in the book? Or them popping out of the ground via dark magic, according to Peter Jackson.
But I felt compelled to include him.
Tolkien was pretty loose with what an orc, goblin, and uruki-hai were. Lots of hints, but almost like he built them as an unsolved mystery on purpose?
I just decided to go with the first few pictures I could find that looked fitting.
P.S. I should have included the animated LOTR/Hobbit (1970s) orcs. My personal favorites.
Goblins also appear in Lotr, the orcs in Moria are goblin orcs. I think the difference is goblin orcs live belowground and mordor orcs above. Uruk-Hai are a new breed by Saruman, combining orcs with the wild men of Rohan through dark sorcery.
I don't think most answers to this question are satisfactory. If they are the same then why does Legolas use each word in different areas?
When Gandalf told Elrond what Saruman was up to, he said "he's crossed orcs with goblin-men," referring to the Uruk-hai. How would that make sense if they were the same?
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