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[–] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There's a recent video from Hank Green outlining the very compelling argument for abandoning coal power in strictly economic terms. It turns out that even if you ignore the big picture environmental impacts like global warming and acid rain, and you also ignore the localized impacts like air pollution and chemical waste, and you ignore the other negative externalities like long term health effects on the workers, then coal is still hard to justify because natural gas plants are simply more profitable.

Not to say that we should be ignoring any of those things, but just to make a point about how impossible it is to make a good faith argument for coal in today's world.

https://youtu.be/IfvBx4D0Cms

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's just a bad fuel in every way. This administration is trying to coerce us to use it

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I assume there's a cartoon where they burn him?

[–] BigBrownBeaver@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Yeah, just google "Coalie rule 34"

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Weighted companion coal

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The utterly ludicrous and comical contradiction of having an unsustainable mascot never even crossed their mind.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 23 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 2 points 50 minutes ago

One high please

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

More "wanna get brain damage from coal pollutants?"

Or, "How about some Black Lung"

[–] Bot@sub.community 2 points 2 hours ago

It's a Stoner!

[–] diykeyboards@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

As someone who grew up in a mining town I cannot wrap my head around how anyone would want it back. (Money, ofc.)

We grew up playing in dead, bright orange sulfur creeks that are just now beginning to heal 40 years later.

We watched our community die from black lung.

The streets and homes were filthy with black dust.

Fuck coal.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

This is so embarrassing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

just waiting for the coalie labubu

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 97 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

What's funny is that coal power puts 100x more radiation into the environment than nuclear power.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

thats likely the least of the problems coal can do, global warming, pullution

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

Right, but this is a clear gatcha since all people want to talk about when it comes to nuclear is "toxic green sludge" and storage, as if the rocks didn't already come from inside a mountain...

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 34 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Apparently its also why fish are high in mercury because mercury in burnt coal eventually finds its way to the ocean.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 31 minutes ago

specifically tuna, its the bioaccumulation on the food web, the TUNA eats other animals that have mercury in it, that eats smaller animals that filter mercury, it piles up.

[–] TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing 9 points 3 hours ago

It is also the most serious contributor to acid rain.

https://www.gem.wiki/Sulfur_dioxide_and_coal

The EPA estimates that more than 65%, or over 13 million tons per year, of SO2 production in the U.S. comes from electric utilities, 93 percent of which is produced by coal power plants.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 14 points 4 hours ago

It's not even really an eventually, it's about a direct as you get. It is exhausted into the sky, gets caught in the water cycle and rains back down to earth.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 4 hours ago

Just put some eyes on a hunk of coal, and it's cute! Y'know, for the kids! This is going to save our whole dying industry!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 39 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This little guy looks like he'd be introduced to me by Troy McClure.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I thought it was a South Park bit.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, except coalie looks like he’s about to cry

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Now, people are gonna say this is meant to brain-wash children.

But you see, the lead-brained troglodyte, drooling demented dumb fuck boomer generation that has gleefully and passionately supported Trump through racism and child rape, are cognitively declining at record setting rates. 

This is for them, to be pur on their TVs they don't know how to use so they can stare at it all slack jawed and stupid while they murmur under their breath and slowly clap their hands together before they have the good graces to finally liberate this planet from their presence already.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Ever see one of the arguments on Facebook about removing lead in aviation fuel?

Half of the comments unintentionally demonstrate why removing lead is a good idea. It's really amusing, or would be if it wasn't so sad. "The lead is distributed over a wide area! It's not a problem!"

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

And aviation fuel is not even taxed usually :/ we are so dumb. Meanwhile so many dismantled train and tram tracks all over

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 hours ago

“the ocean is so big, it can easily accommodate the itty bitty nuclear waste from these minuscule Fukushima meltdowns!”

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 hours ago

If course it's also low effort ai slop

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus.. and I thought Towelie was lame.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least Towlie reminds us to bring a towel. That's actually useful information with no downsides.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Douglas Adams taught me that in a much less annoying way.

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 2 points 47 minutes ago

Douglas Adams also taught me you can never have too many showers in a single day.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Kimmel had a pretty good roast of it but it’s already such a sad satire of itself it was barely necessary

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Big issue with the state of politics, comedians are basically relegated to just reading the news because it's already a satire.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And that's on a good day, when they aren't trying to figure out how to even be humorous around the horrific things they need to talk about.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, can't really joke about executions in the street.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Guaranteed this slop was made by the "Conservative Bluey knock-off" dip-shits...

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's like a joke from The Simpsons for crying out loud

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They're just fucking with us now.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 6 hours ago

Always has been. Never a day without it.

[–] TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing 11 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

"Miners with black lung disease, meanwhile, have had to the Trump administration’s move to roll back safety protections for the coal industry..."

From OSMRE website:

Each year, OSMRE transfers more than $1 billion to the United Mine Workers of America Health and Retirement Funds to support health care and pension benefits for eligible coal miners and their beneficiaries.

The US spends billions every year subsidizing coal and paying for the toll it takes on coal workers' health. And yet, the MAGA folks I know seem to be more supportive of coal than they were 5 years ago. Like a lot more.

I don't get how this plays in MAGA favor when the coal miners themselves are getting shafted and when coal energy represents a complete and total grift - exactly the same type of stuff that had these same folks so excited about Trump and Musk cutting government programs. Any argument for coal falls apart immediately because natural gas is better in almost every way.

Why are these "coalfare kings" getting away with it?

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Part of the problem is that propaganda has convinced them that solar and wind are just pipe dreams and scams which are too weak and expensive to be useful. That it's just part of an agenda being pushed by the radical leftist hippy green weenies who want your taxes to subsidize their useless toys. That renewables are all about virtue signalling and aren't practical because the sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow, etc.

It's not just the imbeciles either. I've known otherwise intelligent people who simply never bothered to investigate the claims they heard. I have these conversations with my dad on occasion because he knows I'm interested in EVs and solar and he'll mention the bullshit articles he reads and I have to point out the flaws in those articles. The last time we talked he questioned if a solar roof really works in the northern parts of the country and he had trouble accepting it until I pointed out that all the plants outside are solar powered and they do just fine.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Because using cheap, clean energy would be woke or something, and the sun cannot bribe government officials.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The libs don't like coal → they have to own the libs → they like coal.

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