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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 3 points 32 minutes ago

This is going to be so great for the Rich People's Pedo Island Money.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

So when do you start doing actual work, Oz?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago

If we WANT to Fix the Debt we need to ~~Tax like 5 REALLY Rich People!~~ Get RID of Retirement!

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Garbage people produce garbage ideas.

Why not pay off the debt by reducing military spending by 90% for the next thirty years. We would still be in the top three countries for military spending.

This shitty idea is a thousand times better than anything Oz could come up with.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Increased productivity means jack shit when the results of said productivity are being sucked up by people at the top.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is that he's right, but will these sleazy fucks do anything to actually make it happen? Well let's see what they're to implement...

  • A universal healthcare system so Americans are healthier and less stressed? Nope
  • Free college so Americans can start their careers as efficiently as possible? Nope
  • Free universal daycare for all American parents so they could focus on their careers without being to stressed about where to take their kids? Nope
  • Raising the minimum wage to something livable so people don't depend on government programs? Nope
  • Investing in public transport so people can more reliably commute to work and find new jobs? Nope
  • Strengthening worker rights to ensure that workers are taken care of, thus ensuring their longevity and productivity? Nope
  • Passing union friendly policies while prosecuting union busting businesses to make sure American workers feel their hard work isn't being taken advantage of? Nope
  • Regulating hazardous workplace conditions to ensure the safety of workers? Nope

So what they fuck do they mean by this? They clearly don't care about the debt or the well being of Americans since they're not willing to do anything about either. No, what they want are results without any of the work needed to achieve it. They're not looking for a more productive economy, they're looking for slaves.

[–] French75@slrpnk.net 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The thing is that he’s right

He's not right. The national debt is way fuckin bigger than 3 trillion. He's also wrong in presuming that an infusion of productivity (tax revenue) can "solve" intentional over-spending. He's just a serial scammer spouting uninformed nonsense to stay relevant.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

last time i bothered doing the napkin math, it really wouldn't take much to reduce the national debt to more sustainable pre-9/11 levels. just tax rich cunts (anyone who is a milllionaire) at 60-70's level of taxation for 4 years and it would be paid down to that level within 1 election cycle

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

You're completely right. It won't solve the debt problem, that can only be solved with a redone trade policy. I'm just saying that in the abstract, its a good direction to go in IF we implement the stuff that I listed in my comment. People will work better if the system works for them. It currently doesn't, and people are just trying to survive.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Two of the three points he made are total horseshit, but let's not throw out that last one:

If we could get the average American to ~~start working a year earlier, right out of high school, or a year later --not retire -- or~~ work better during their lifetime because they're healthy, it would generate about $3 trillion to the US economy.

Universal Health Care fucking now.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Their healthcare plan is this:

Got injured on the job? Can't work anymore? Well, that's okay. We have a nurse's station behind the woodshed out back. Just stand there and face the wall, and soon your injury won't be a problem.

"Too old to perform? Well, just come back here behind this woodshed and face the wall, and we can discuss our retirement plan." The HR rep says as they pull a revolver.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

If we just start culling the weak then there will be more resources for us to own.

-The rich and their political cronies

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

Or if we tax billionaires and corporations…

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 35 points 9 hours ago

Or we could make it illegal to be a billionaire.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I hope Dr Oz is killed in front of his family

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

. . . painfully and slowly.

[–] karashta@piefed.social 48 points 11 hours ago

Or we could stop lying about what the national debt is and tax the wealthy to destroy their absurd power.

https://mmt101.substack.com/p/mmt-basics-national-debt-defined

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WrenMala8@pawb.social 1 points 47 minutes ago

It's an Irish sitcom called "Father Ted"

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago

My favorite are the ones that complain about how nobody wants to work and everybody's lazy. Yet, they themselves stopped working in their mid-50s after fighting for years to get on disability for their unhealthy lifestyles (obesity & cigarettes).

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 56 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

Adding $3 trillion in GDP would not remove the debt anyway. Assholes like this one don't even understand how GDP is calculated nor what it means.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago

It's beautifully wrong on so many levels.

  1. Increasing GDP doesn't address the debt crisis.
  2. The debt is WAY bigger than 3 trillion
  3. As long as Trump is in office, the debt will grow, and nothing can be done to change that.
[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Mfs legit think GDP stands for Gross Domestic Profit.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You’re not a team player, are you? Work more and work harder. For the team. /s

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago

"We're all in this together."

"You're an essential worker."

"We're a family."

Telltale signs of a malignant sociopath.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

as an aside - Read somewhere that this argument that the government can't afford all of these things like healthcare, infrastructure, etc. that would help most people is bullshit. Since the federal government prints it's own money there is nothing that it can't afford. We spent 3 - 8 trillion on the Afghanistan and Iraq wars alone. And when people argue that it will increase inflation - sure maybe, but if you tax wealthy people more it can cover part or all of the newly printed money.

Note: I'm a bit of an idiot about this stuff - so this article could be completely off base and I just wouldn't know.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Printing money isn't usually a good idea as it generally causes inflation/devaluation of the currency. So while the US could do it, the outcome would probably be devastating.

In basic terms, the more of something you have the less valuable it becomes. This works for things like trading cards/collectibles, but also applies to money.

A good real world example of this recently was the pandemic. Between reduced spending (due to be cooped up) and stimulus money (ppp loans, checks, etc.), a lot of Americans came out of the pandemic looking to spend. This huge surge in spending meant a lot of people fighting over a set amount of goods (since during the pandemic manufacturing took a hit). So high demand and low/constrained supply leads to rising prices. So while people have more money, that doesn't necessarily mean they can buy more things.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Of course, I've already seen this future. As soon as you have a meaningful amount of labor value to extract, it's straight to work for you. You work until all your labor value is extracted. "Oh, you're ready to retire? Well, alright. If you'll just come back here behind this woodshed and face the wall, we can discuss your plans." Your boss says as he pulls a revolver...

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 233 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If we emptied the account of every rich asshole like this we would achieve the same thing AND lose a whole class of dickbags that think they should be in charge.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 95 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

The top 25 US billionaires could pay off US debt. Not even every billionaire. They total about 3 trillion net worth.

That's ignoring say the $60 billion or so Apple has in cash and who knows what other companies have

[–] BillSchofield@lemmy.world 42 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

"As of January 2026, the total U.S. national debt has exceeded $38.5 trillion. This figure represents the total money borrowed by the federal government to cover annual deficits, which is growing rapidly, with a rise of over $2 trillion in 2025 alone."

I definitely want to tax the hell out of the rich, but we are in a deep hole. A long term systemic change will serve us better (or in addition to) talking all of their money now.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Already trying to roll back child labor laws under trump’s previous administration. Why did they decide to pay attention now?

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (9 children)

Fresh out of highschool? Wtf... Are kids really not getting jobs while still going to highschool anymore...

We were getting jobs as soon as law allowed us.

Am I out of touch or is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He's super out of touch, I had a part time job when I was 15 at a Dairy Queen. And as far as I'm aware, that's still pretty common.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Some people do, for sure, but lots of people don't get a job until college age, or in some cases until after graduating.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 9 hours ago

Am I out of touch

No :)

is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

Totes!

Although, my experience definitely differed. I tried the "Get a job out of highschool" thing, but there were lines around the block consisting of former cubicle-dwellers with 3 kids applying to my local In-N-Out Burger, so stuff was bleak. I was fortunate I was able to wait a little while.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Instead of trying to extend the prole's work life by a couple years, we COULD tax billion-dollar companies and their owners by 2% more and make three times as much money!

But we can't! Sorry. Our hands are tied

Also, can't afford minimum wage increase this year, the budget is tight

Oh! Almost forgot! We need a raise of 10% this year, and it's time for our winter break! After winter break, it's spring break. Then we will come back to "work" to pass more important legislation, right before our summer break.

You don't get breaks every year? Damn. Well, life is not fair what can we do later gator

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Just work better 4Head

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I didn't make that debt. You pay it.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

No fucking shit.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 41 points 14 hours ago

“Please stay in the corporate meat grinder so we can have enough money to fuck kids then bomb them”

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck the debt, but since we're living longer we should be contributing to society longer. Not amazon, but something like growing weed in your basement. Or crops in backyard for farmers market.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sure. Once every billionaire has been taxed out of existence, and if we still don't have enough money, we can start talking about increasing the retirement age.

If, on the other hand, taxing the billionaires out of existence is more than we need, we can lower the retirement age.

We could start collecting social security at 40 if we taxed the ultra-rich properly.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Kill a billionaire for every ICE murder.

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