I kind of like the karma thing on redddit, it should be available to everyone perhaps. I guess there are upsides to not having karma too, but it is a clue to help spot some troll accounts, and influence agents, bots, etc. You see patterns in their profiles when you id one and check their profiles. They are rife across social media.
MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
Pretty incredible crashout from people who are terrified that their pro-genocide devs might not exercise complete control anymore, lmao
My favorite is all these twats before saying "IF YOU DON'T LIKE LEMMY CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE" when people pointed out that the Lemmy devs were pro-genocide and enforced pro-genocide views on their flagship instance, and now that there's an alternative, they have total meltdowns about persecution, lmao.
But no one ever said fascist bootlickers were particularly bright, or, for that matter, stable. If they were, one imagines they wouldn't tie up their identity so tightly with genocide denial.
Which instances are pro genocide? I take it chinese? I think someone told me some of the communist ones that back russia and china were original developers of lemmy. I haven't seen any pro israeli instances yet, although I've seen a few fascist bootlickers, influence agents, bots, or should I just call the latter two mechanized troll divisions.
.ml, lemmygrad, and Hexbear all enforce standards of atrocity apologia and denial.
Hexbear was the one ran afoul of but I've heard of the others, have had conversations on .ml without issue, idk lemmygrad. They really like the china and russia kind of countries I guess, and it seems like a top down sort of operation with a chain of command rather than a collective of like minded people. Perhaps a long palsied arm of russian intelligence.
It is a bit ironic though, that they are all rather "woke," and purportedly far left, while holding up as models countries that are fascist and authoritarian and could only be classified as hard right, dictatorships. Neither Russia nor China exemplifies the wokeness so to speak they wield, and in fact helped coin through their proxies that definition. In fact either would probably imprison anyone loudly espousing their ethos in those countries in a work camp.
Hexbear was the one ran afoul of but I’ve heard of the others, have had conversations on .ml without issue, idk lemmygrad.
FYI all those instances are mostly the same people, just with different masks. .ml is the one where they're at least trying to look reasonable. Grad is mask off. Hexbear is used for trolling.
Whom are these people do we have any idea? The reasonable ones I talked to during the big troll on my original offense explained they weren't super politically correct westerners for communists mostly outside the US if not the west altogether. That's all I know, but I know some are in the UK and US and Spain at a minimum.
They just don't like that they can't control the narrative on Piefed and that Lemmy's developers are so busy banning people for dissent that they don't spend enough time developing their platform, leading to Piefed surpassing it in features and quality.
They are rather intolerant of dissenting opinions, even ones that agree in principle with them but take issue with their direction in what to do about the problem.
Oh yeah that was the post that made me block their meme community 🤣
I read about most of the shit the tankies on ml say it's censorship. Many of them are just common sense stuff. And the fact that you are flagged for commenting "this" or that you're commenting with a GIF from Tenor - those two things are pretty low effort and I think the answer to it is a proper one (no, it's not actually a thing about GIFs, it's about low effort comments. You can upload your own GIF elsewhere and use it).
Also, it's funny how they have nothing against China using a social credit system, but when Piefed uses it IT'S HELL ON EARTH!!!
"China doesn't have a social credit system, and if they did it would be based; but these WESTOID KRAKKKER IMPERIALISTS are operating a SECRET POLICE by having admin access to reputation scores for an online forum 😭"
Imagine unironically posting these comments in communities that notoriously ban people for wrong-think.
Shit like this really makes me question if they can genuinely be this stupid.
i'd like to tout that this community rarely bans users and has one of the fairest and most lenient ban conditions. we encourage tankies to come and engage
but tankies like to say they get banned for 'wrongthink' since it's easier to lie than admit you can't handle people criticising your otherwise asinine positions.
They are in denial
USAID which is a CIA cutout
This claim is literally standing shoulder to shoulder with known Hitler-worshipper Elon Musk's attacks on USAID last year. The only group that can out-conspiracy theory Hexbear and Grad is Qanon at this point.
I am sure that's true the account you replied to is in bad faith here, but the CIA has used all sorts of do gooder organizations however. We notably impersonated vaccination workers to find Osama, and made those already put upon humanitarian missions more at risk and saw increases in their killings and attacks, especially in places like pakistan that still see polio and other vaccinateable disease.
Then there was an international student democracy group back in the 80s, they recruited all of these idealists, including in Iraq, after the Islamic revolution in Iran, and the whole thing was a cia front, and they used that group to garner tens of thousands of names they gave to the baath party when they were seizing and consolidating power, in two tranches, and those people were grabbed, disappeared, tortured, murdered. I can give you a link on that if you want, harper's magazine.
Those are just to name a couple, just to make the point that there very well could, almost certainly is, some cia fuckery with this usaid organization. Using their own pervertion of the agencies and organizations to shut down chartiy work however is just more rw degeneration of society obviously I am not in disagreement rather pointing out there almost certainly has been cia skullduggery at that organization.
It's very curious how all extremists end up with the same talking points and views. The antisemitism from tankies is almost identical to neo-nazis, even posting and sharing the same conspiracy theories.
If I were a bot farm operator, that's exactly what I would do. Right-wing authoritarian talking points branded with "Leftist" packaging.
Yeah, most likely it's Russian disinformation at some level in the pipeline of extremism