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    [–] rozodru@piefed.social 77 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    as someone who is a dev by trade I update/backup on fridays because I think it's funny.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    It's always funny, until that one day where it isn't

    PC-LOAD-LETTER, wtf does that mean?!

    e: You guys are making me feel old for not getting this reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space

    [–] snooggums@piefed.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    For those that don't know:

    PC = Printer Cartridge (the place where you put ink or paper for it to use)

    Letter = 8 1/2 x 11 inch letter sized paper, which is similar to A4

    So the message means to load letter sized paper in the printer cartridge, because the sensor says it is empty.

    [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

    PC in this context stands for Paper Cassette, an old HP term for the paper tray.

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

    It means you need more paper.

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    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] velxundussa@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    but "yay" already does that

    [–] Cort@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I have a script I run daily (named daily) that makes a timeshift backup, checks for updates from pacman, then checks for updates from the AUR. I'm very fond of it :]

    [–] jimerson@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Does paru -Syu not also include pacman, or do you just prefer to do pacman first?

    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I have never heard of paru until this very moment. I will look into it, thanks!

    [–] jimerson@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

    Heck yeah! I hope it helps simplify things!

    This might be the first time my limited Linux knowledge has been helpful to an internet stranger. Feels good.

    [–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I’ve been using yay for years, and it is sufficient. First time I’ve heard of paru.

    Other than being written in rust, how does paru improve the experience of AUR wrapping?

    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

    Googling it, it just seems like yay but in rust and it shows PKGBUILD by default. Still cool to find alternative tools though

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    [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    When I am bored. A few times per month in winter. Once or twice per summer.

    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    We are still talking about updates, right?

    [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I do sudo pacman -Syu as a ritual each time when I start my computer or laptop. Like, the very first thing after the system is booted. So far so good, been doing that for 7 years.

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    [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 4 months ago

    My Debian trixie desktop system rotates /var/log/apt/history once a month. So over the past year:

    $ zgrep upgrade /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l
    25
    $ ls /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l
    12
    $
    

    25 upgrades in 12 months. So about twice a month on average on that one.

    [–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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    At most once per day. Sometimes I can go three weeks without remembering to upgrade

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    My home PC, about once a week, or whenever I have to install new software. My work PC, about once a month because the nvidia driver takes fucking ages to update because of DKMS.

    As for the servers under my professional care... it depends. Most of the servers that I made run Debian that I update three times a year whenever the downtime is acceptable for the university (spring break, late summer, early december) or if a CVE needs fixing (e.g. xz-utils). One internet-facing server that I inherited still runs Ubuntu 16.04 because some teachers can't possibly live without some legacy software and will throw a tantrum if upgrading is even mentioned -- that one gets zero updates, and I got the dean's promise in writing that I wouldn't be held responsible for it.

    The big virtualization server still runs ESXi 6 because the university didn't want to pay for a lifetime license when it was available, doesn't want to pay for a subscription now, and doesn't want the downtime required to fully migrate to Proxmox VE. So it gets no updates. Plus it has a bad SSL cert and I need Chromium's thisisunsafe to bypass the error.

    It's fucking rough out here.

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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    For me, it's about reducing the amount of time the "update available" icon shows up in the system tray, because its very presence bothers me. Maybe there's something cool and new. Maybe it fixes a severe security problem. If it's for programs I'm not using right now, then the update can be applied right now. Otherwise it's going to have to wait until I'm done. And bother me.

    Yes, I could turn updates off and never see it, but that seems like a bad plan in the long run.

    [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Can't you update it all regardless of whether you're using it because the Linux file system leaves the old file intact and just writes a new file and updates the pointer so anything still using the old file carries on as if nothing happened and just gets the update the next time you run it?

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    This is true. But then I'm not using the latest version while I still have an active session, and that can lead to weird behaviour or errors after the fact.

    Case in point, I once received an Xorg update that I allowed to install, but didn't restart the computer properly until much, much later.

    By then I'd forgotten about the update, so when I restarted and started having graphics problems, I was mystified.

    I've also forgotten how that all panned out, but in the same situation I'd roll back to a previous Timeshift snapshot and work the system forward again until I find the culprit or things are stable, so I assume that's what I did back then.

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    [–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Once a week usually, or when I have to reboot anyway.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

    when I have to reboot anyway.

    I do the same, then you have these days: "Ok, I'll run a quick update before reboot... Updating qt-webengine?, nooooooo"

    [–] l3enc@piefed.ee 6 points 4 months ago

    every week more or less, it's basically just as often as I remember. oh and whenever I have to update a program for security reasons, like a system wide patch or a new browser release, that sorta thing. using opensuse tumbleweed btw

    [–] syaochan@feddit.it 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I've set up unattended upgrades and forgot about updates, until I get a mail saying they happened.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Note that at least on Debian, the unattended-upgrades package only, by default, does security updates. While those are the most important ones, if you want various bugfixes and such, you probably do want to at least occasionally do an update yourself.

    [–] syaochan@feddit.it 7 points 4 months ago

    On my laptop with LMDE, which is basically Debian, I've configured it to update everything. The only thing left out are flatpaks which I update when I remember.

    [–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

    Fedora Silverblue (actually bluebuild building my own OS)

    practically only if there's a new release of a software I want to install (which zeroes out to approx all 2 months)

    [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

    If I’m bored and done with everything and can peacefully restart

    [–] XaetaCore@lemmy.neondystopia.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I have a bash alias alias update='flatpak update ; flatpak remove --unused ; emerge --sync -a ; emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=500 @world ; emerge --depclean ; eclean-dist -d' Which i run like update && shutdown -P now And usually in the morning i do another update to check if it missed anything

    Run the main update before i sleep computer shuts down when done and when i wake up i check what i missed

    Does the job every time 😎

    [–] lennee@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

    every 5 minutes sounds about right

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago

    Sometimes I let a Gentoo lapse on upgrades, just for the extra fun.

    Every 1-2 weeks, depends on how often I remember

    [–] exu@feditown.com 3 points 4 months ago

    paru -Syu; poweroff most evenings

    [–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 months ago

    I use Apdatifier for KDE and it checks every 180 minutes. If there are updates, I update.

    [–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

    Opensuse aeon - I don't do anything. Package manager handles everything

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago
    [–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

    sudo pacman -Sybau

    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 months ago

    Usually once whenever I'm on it I'll pull up a terminal and type "yay"

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