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Agents use facial recognition, social media monitoring and other tech tools not only to identify undocumented immigrants but also to track protesters, current and former officials said.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 113 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you think that any nation-state with the money to implement this shit isn't doing it already, I have a bridge to sell you.

Surveillance is a matter of power and maintaining it, far more than any ideological thing. There are already people being caught by this sort of shit in the UK and Europe as well.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Those are fascist states too. You can't make use of this kind of technology and still claim to be the good guys. Fascisms not a left or right thing, both sides of the aisle can slide into that kind of behavior.

[–] BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

Authoritarianism applies to both sides, and the middle. Fascism is a right wing authoritarian ideology.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Both sides of the state's aisle are right-wing.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Fascist ideology is an ultranationalist one which the USA is now under Trump and the rest of Europe is at risk to become one too

Most of the fascist characteristics are already there is the USA https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure the incompetence we see is because there’s a mix of Russia in there too so everything is push pull tug throw.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fascists are incompetent regardless of nationality.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

fascists are also opportunistic backbiting bitches always looking for the moment to turn on eachother

This is a dangerous assumption.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I am confused on this.

They simultaneously get only 47 days of training.

But somehow they've got Mussad level training.

Please make it make sense.

They certainly do not appear to have a high level or training in any video I have ever seen

[–] Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're not being trained to be elite troops the way that people mythologize the IDF who somehow managed to miss all of the warnings about October the 7th and can't tell the difference between a baby and a bomb.

They're being trained to be the enforcers of apartheid. Racistly motivated government shock troops don't have to be competent or capable they just have to be cruel and follow orders.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

The IDF is mainly occupied in breaking the arms of 12-year-old kids and murdering civilians. If that makes them an elite force, then maybe ICE will be one too.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Your problem is assuming that "Mussad level training" is some kind of complicated thing.

It's just another course on racism, murder, terrorism, etc.

that number has to be propaganda

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah even with your sources you're making some VERY grand claims there.

I'm sure Israel and Mossad have their fingers in US politics but to claim that Epstein was a Mossad agent, you're going to need some big evidence to backt that up or just take it down because we already have enough conspiratorial bullshit out here

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

I think people have Epstein wrong. Ghislaine wasn't his accomplice. He was hers. Her father was linked to Mossad quite a lot and was buried in Jerusalem. The whole Maxwell family is crooked as all fuck.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Epstein worked for Mossad period. Was he an exclusive officer of theirs? We don't know. We do know he did a lot of work with them. This is not a grand claim and I find kind of funny and kind of sad that you state it this way.

For instance, if I do work for the CIA I would be an agent of the CIA. If I worked directly for them I would be an officer. Perhaps you are just confused as to the definitions.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's what's weird about it, when you have that much money, you don't tend to work for anyone.

Why get involved in some complicated spy game? You're rich, you don't have to do shit, and in fact you're so rich you can do whatever you want... with children... I mean can you picture those same people who feel they are above the law, being beholden to anyone?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know honestly. If I had several million dollars I would probably stop there, invest it and live off the interest and never have to work. I may hold down a job as a hobby, but I wouldn't be beholden to anyone. I guess I would never become a truly wealthy person.

Obviously there is something else driving these billionaires. It is never enough for them and I think it probably is something along the lines of a mental illness.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's dragon sickness. Seriously. In all of high fantasy, there is exactly one dragon that has more than $1,000,000,000, when the story or setting was created. His name is Smaug. That gigantic pile of good and treasure amounts to somewhere between $10,000,000,000 - $15,000,000,000. In every other story or game, all the dragons (except of maybe one single Red dragon) have less than $1,000,000,000 in gold. (Admittedly the price of gold isn't helping here)

RAW: all other types of dragons have less wealth than Red Ancient Wyrms. A Red Ancient Wyrm will have between 1,000,000 to 5,000,000 gold pieces worth of wealth. We'll assume they are a Philistine, and all their wealth is in gold. That means that one single Red Wyrm per world might have somewhere around 500,000 oz of gold. Currently that much gold would be worth just over 2 billion dollars, but again that is the extreme statistical outlier of the literal greediest and most evil type of dragon.

Edit: oh and the worst part? The billionaires don't have an excuse. If the evil dragons don't hoard and eat their wealth just before they die, Tiamat / Thakisis will kill their soul. They literally take it with them. Our billionaires have no such rules governing them, they're just mentally ill.

Edit 2: I'm aware that shadowrun exists. That's not high fantasy.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

to claim that Epstein was a Mossad agent,

1000% Accurate. Tons of evidence. Openly served foreign (zionist) interests.

Maybe he wasn't officially hired and trained by Mossad, but that's just formalism.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

You're nitpicking about his payroll status (asset? agent? subcontractor?) rather than looking at whether he was passing information to Mossad, coordinating his actions with Israeli intelligence leaders such as Ehud Barak and using his influence to benefit Israel.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One of the tools, which was built by Paragon, an Israeli technology company, lets people take control of phones or remotely hack into them to read messages or track locations. The others were built by Penlink, a Nebraska-based software company. They use social media data scraped from the web and information from data brokers to help build dossiers of anyone with a social media account.

ICE’s use of facial recognition software was documented in videos and photos from local activist groups in Minnesota this month and reviewed by The Times. Two photos captured fatigue-clad agents using cellphones to scan the faces of protesters in Minneapolis, while in one video, agents could be heard telling people that they were being recorded with facial recognition technology and that their faces would be added to a database.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 37 points 1 week ago

i HaVe NoThInG tO hIdE! 🤡

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet another fash-enabling take from the NYTrash. Please don't post this rag of imperial disinformation.

Here's a better take: Was Alex Pretti the subject of a targeted assassination?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Can someone explain to me why this is focused on the city of Minneapolis specifically? Why is ICE focusing specifically on that city of all of them?

My guess is his personal vendetta against Walz.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Racism against Somalis plus he hates Walz for running against him

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I read an opinion piece that suggested that he is upset that Minnesota is the only blue state in a region of red. Given that Minnesota is primarily white, he felt that he could use the Somali fraud as a way to turn [white] people against the democrats using xenophobia.

Edit: I found the article.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aside from revenge against Walz... one theory is that we're a functioning community that's ethnically diverse, relatively progressive, union strong, and very friendly to queer folks. Fox News would have you believe that any one of those features creates a godless hellscape, but we're doing pretty good. Minnesota grew a huge budget surplus under Walz, and then we invested it in schools and social programs. The Republican tradition is to destroy something (see: the federal government) and say, "See? Told you it was broken!"

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

ilhan omar

So a two fer.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago

It's a "sanctuary city".

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personal grudge against Waltz, for running against him amongst other grudges

That's what citizens pay for now in Trump's USA. With their lives. Petty grievances of an Alzheimer patient.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Don’t forget Omar.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Among other reasons you've been given:

  • The figured MN folks would be peaceable and lay down.
  • No open carry of weapons.
  • Didn't think they'd show out in deep winter. (HAH!)
[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

MN does allow open carry of pistols however

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Bruce Springstein's protest song : Streets of Minneapolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDaPdpwA4Iw

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Reasons I installed GrapheneOS November 2024 and moved to Lemmy/Mastodon only in July 2023, intensifies.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That only mitigates. There are still a number of ways to potentially track a hardened phone, and countless ways to breach proper OPSEC on social media that have nothing to do with the platform.

Don't rely entirely on system choices to keep you safe.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep your modem baseband is 100% hackable or already backdoored

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I would also like to know more. Have you got a link to something for a layperson re this?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

your modem baseband is 100% hackable or already backdoored

I hear this mentioned a lot but how exactly is it "backdoored"?

Like... does LineageOS help? Does GrapheneOS help?

Is it like IntelME/AMD-PSP?

(Oh btw LineageOS apparantly breaks the data connection of my carrier so... 🤷‍♂️ there's that...)

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not even remotely comparably.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

As usual, the Trump admin is using tools that have been available to the feds for years but they use them so ineptly that it has become obvious that they exist. I guess that is better than competent administrations doing to the same thing for less trivial and obvious shit.