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This whole post comes from my experience joining and trying to use Peertube. The immediately obvious problem is getting creators to post on Peertube which is an entirely separate issue. Even once I did decide I wanted to join Peertube and try to find all the content I could, I still ran into issues and it just wasn't a smooth experience at all. I'm fine with that as I understand the fediverse works differently and Peertube is a relatively small project (especially compared to YouTube) and I can accept that because I support what Peertube is doing as an open source federated platform. However, most people don't care about all that and even if they hear about Peertube and creators start moving there, regular people will still struggle to use it in its current state.

"Default" instance

Creating an account is confusing and the whole "choose your instance" is extremely unintuitive for new fediverse users. Obviously this isn't unique to Peertube, but other fediverse platforms like Lemmy and mastodon have solved this by having a "default" general instance to direct people to (e.g. lemmy.world & mastodon.social).

Search/Discovery

This somewhat goes hand-in-hand with the previous point, but it's really hard to search and find new creators/videos. Part of the reason is searching in most instances will on search that instance and maybe a few other instances that are specifically federated with yours. The closest to a "universal" instance I've found is peertube.wtf, but it is extremely slow for me and sometimes just doesn't load at all. Maybe this has to do with the fact that it is also searching so many federated instances, or maybe it's because it's based in Denmark and I'm in the US. Either way, I created an account but it was basically unusable so I switched to TILvids which seems to have a decent amount of creators but isn't federated with many other instances. There's also Sepia Search but it honestly doesn't seem to perform great and it's very unintuitive to have to go to a different website to search, then the finding a creator/video but it goes to that instance, so to subscribe, comment, like, etc. you need to find a way to open that video within your instance.

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[–] CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly I'd love to set up a big "default" instance myself, but as soon as you become a big advert for everyone else to set up their channel on your instance, server costs will go through the roof. I'm in England and Peertube.wtf generally works better for me, but even then it seems to randomly crash and reload on longer videos like stream VODs, so maybe it is a geography thing.

[–] MrFunkEdude@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think part of the problem is that you are doing what a lot of people naturally, but mistakenly, do. Compare it to YouTube.

PeerTube isn't trying to be YouTube. The only thing they have in common, is showing videos. That's it.

YouTube is a commercialized and corporate owned video aggregator that takes their users, changes them into commodities, and then monetizes the content from it's creators who are forced to follow the dictates of an algorithm if they wish to get a fraction of the value that they've put in.

PeerTube is a decentralized and federated video aggregator that is owned by the people. The users remain users and there is no monetization or algorithm which forces a user to follow. Any monetary compensation is strictly between the user and their audience.

The problem you're talking about isn't a problem with PeerTube, it's a problem with norms set by corporate entities. People hate to learn new ways of doing things. PeerTube isn't that hard to use once you understand the basics and how it integrates into the Fediverse. There's a reason that most PeerTube instances don't accept registrations from people who aren't creating videos. Aside from cutting down on spam and bad actors, there's really no need for it. Want to find a video? Do a Mastodon (or other Fedi service) search for the appropriate title or hashtag. Then you can follow the creator and get notifications. You can even comment and like and boost.

In other words, no one needs a PeerTube account unless they are making videos.

But that isn't the norm. YouTube is the norm and people mistakenly expect a YouTube like service. So when they see that things are different, their brain short circuits.

But unlike a lot of people, I don't see this as a problem. I think it's a feature.

The fact that it forces people to learn a new non corporate lead way of doing things opens up a world of benefits that non Fedi people can't even imagine. Choice? Control? They have no real understanding of what those things really are. And because they aren't willing to learn something new, they get upset and don't bother trying. Which is fine with me. Because it means every instance is filled with people who were willing to break out of the mold and learn something new. THAT'S a feature.

So yes, while PeerTube isn't perfect and still has bugs to work out, it's fairly good at what it's supposed to do. Which is to serve videos to the Fedi and not just PeerTube. Anything else you want it to do or be, is based on your own biases that you most likely picked up from corporate owned services.

[–] Midnattssol@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

In other words, no one needs a PeerTube account unless they are making videos.

A noob question from someone who only has an account on a Lemmy instance: I check Mastodon most days and PeerTube occasionally. Federation is great in theory, but in practice it doesn't work between all kinds of applications. Are there Lemmy instances where an account actually makes it possible to follow or comment on Mastodon or PeerTube? If so is it widely implemented? I think I read something on my Feddit instance that hinted at that it might be made possible to federate from there to Mastodon some day in the future. The other direction probably works to some extent, but I haven't really had any interest in signing up for Mastodon as I'm not planning to micro blog myself.

I can subscribe to PeerTube channels through third party apps of course, but not comment.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I understand that Peertube isn't trying to be YouTube, specifically from a monetization point of view. However I'm still looking for pretty much the same thing from Peertube as I do from YouTube; to watch interesting videos and follow creators. I get what you're saying about the Fediverse being different and having benefits like choice, freedom, and control, and I appreciate that, but at the end of the day, just trying to consume content on Peertube right now isn't a great experience.

As far as being able to watch without an account and interacting with a Mastodon or other federated account, I do think that's great, but I go to Mastodon when I want to see text/photo posts. If I want video I would like to go to Peertube and find high quality videos I'm interested in. Plus searching for topics/hashtags like you mentioned will bring more than just video results, and again if I want video I'm usually looking on a video platform and if I want text/photos I'm looking on those platforms. Plus most Mastodon apps don't have great video players so again it's just not a great video consuming experience.

And honestly I wouldn't mind a secondary algorithm feed that shows me videos I might be interested in. Obviously I don't want the entire platform to be just that as that's one of my biggest problems with traditional platforms. But a feed tuned to my interests that I can choose to check out would honestly be great in my opinion. Again obviously I would still want the default to be a "subscription" feed that only shows creators I'm subscribed to, but sometimes I want to be able to find new videos and creators.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that what have described is basically an absence of a specialized app that would work like Mastodon, but filter search results to only videos(maybe to gifs also by choice of a user). I think you should ask some people in tech comunities on Lemmy to try to create such app.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Theres some good multi communities in piefed called feeds. Ex: https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos

Human curated videos are great. Also thats kinda why we started this community. If you like something put it here as a post!

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This looks really cool! Is there any way to follow/subscribe to these feeds with a lemmy.world account? I feel like I already have so many Fediverse accounts which kind of goes against the point of the Fediverse lol.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe one day! Its piefed specific for a while now. Lemmy takes a lomg time wirh developent. Maybe you can help them out?

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I know absolutely nothing about development lol. I might look into creating a piefed account though just for these feeds which look really cool

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Never to late to try ;)

But I understand.

Piefed is fun! I like it at least. I was on lemmy.world for a good year before I switched over. Now Ive been here for about a year and even self host my own instance. GL on your fedi journey and hope to see you around!

[–] winni@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For a consumer finding videos is the key. I often have the feeling that videos dont want to be found because it creates costs if somebody watches them. Navigation between instances in pipepipe is a desaster. Looking for a specific topic usually results in zero hits, even sepia search is defective at best. What would help is one or more centralised servers which list videos on different instances. If a creator wants to be found he can list the video there, if not the video is not for public view anyway

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

i just checked out my peertube picks browser extension to see whats available. I made the browser extension, but i do want the idea of "collect your own data, run your own algorithm" to take off

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just worry that if I go there and post streams and stuff that I'm gonna be using up storage and not really providing content of proportional value. The scale of Google's datacenters makes the average cost per storage much lower than anything consumers and even small companies can obtain.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean if creators are serious about switching to Peertube they can create their own instances hosted on Google servers no? And honestly while getting content on Peertube is a big problem it's really only going to be solved when there's also users there and Peertube in its current state is not very intuitive for new users.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That would kinda go against the whole point of PeerTube as Google could just take down those instances hosted on their servers if they deem them hostile, or worse, try to EEE PeerTube somehow.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, but I still think it could be a good starting point for creators that need a lot of storage/bandwidth for a decent price. And if Google does start cracking down on their type of content they can always move to another instance/server as needed. Obviously the end goal would be to not rely on Google or big tech at all, but the current reality of the internet makes that very difficult and impractical and switching to a Peertube instance, even if it's hosted on Google servers, is still a step in the right direction.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As if there aren't already plenty of instances which aren't hosted on Big Tech to choose from; a commonly recommended instance for artists or crafters being MakerTube, for example.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Right and that's great, but the original comment was concerned with costs and using Big Tech's servers is one of the only ways around that.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, the problem that I see is that we do have a platform but don't have an easy way to use it. If Mastodon allows to browse the PeerTube with all other fediverse platforms together, that we just need an app that will copy Mastodon but with limitations and optimizations for only video content. I do not say that this will solve all the problems, but this can improve the experience.

[–] MagicDonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Content quantity and discovery are definitely issues with peer tube but I think you hit the main issue here... Using it is a horrible broken experience right now. The few available apps are a bad experience and the websites feel cluttered and confusing. One of the core features of PeerTube is P2P sharing (give back what you take) but whether I'm using an app or browser I can never tell if that feature is actually available and working. I just want a user friendly app that plays videos and allows me to passively contribute bandwidth to channels/videos I like. I really want to like PeerTube but it's not a fun experience at the moment.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still think it would be best to just have a "centralised" Peertube instance that can list videos from many other instances that users can sign up to and easily discover a large catalogue of content. The issue with a Mastodon style app is it could also show other random videos from Mastodon and short form videos from platforms like Loops, and those are two different media categories from Peertube/YouTube content in my mind.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Centralization kills the whole idea of Fediverse. But, what can be done is creating a special instance, that will aggregate the links to posts that contain videos in them into itself from whole fediverse. Then, store and update them in a local DB providing the API end point. And because of it will be containing only Metadata of videos, not only the database will be very small(only like a dozen GB for millions of videos), but it will also allow to search info very quickly and provide it to the users. The whole idea is that it will provide centralized ability to browse content while remaining federated, since it will not store any videos in its DB acting more like some sort of external indexation archive.

Then, I also think that it is possible to make options to not only listen to content but also to publish it through this middle point onto desired real instances. Must say that I do not sure about this second part, but first part is totally achievable. In fact, I'd be happy to try to create a system like this myself, if only my internet provider wasn't using NAT system and, at least, had lover pricing for a dedicated IPv6 address. Since using some cloud services for development and hosting of such thing doesn't provide enough control.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Right that's what I meant about a "centralized" instance. I just think it would make things a lot easier if there was one "main" server that new users could easily be directed to, create and account, and view and discover content from lots of other instances.

The existence of instances like MakerTube I think provides a good platform for dedicated creators to go to at the moment, but it would be cool if again, there was a main instance that somehow allowed uploading to other instances.

[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another Fediverse newbie here... recognize the issues and wish the xp would be better. But, I do realize that the PeerTube/Fediverse model is different. YT has 15+ yrs head start and a spectacular cashflow. How could the level of maturity any different? In fact, I was very much impressed by the current features.

So yes, PeerTube is not on the level of YT. But, I'm glad it exists. Something to switch to, when the time comes that ads will become unavoidable, even with apps like NewPipe.

[–] rb411@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

100% agree with everything you say, I'm genuinely impressive how good Peertube is without the backing of a huge corporation. And I do love it as an option when regular people start getting tired enough of YouTube's enshitification.

My point is simply that in it's current state, Peertube isn't very friendly to new users and I think there's some pretty obvious steps that need to be taken before "regular" people will even start thinking about joining.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be cool if everyone shared their favourites, for their friends & family, and so on. Wouldn't break the bank (many have both the storage and bandwidth requirements in this scenario already).

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats what i do. Just family and dog videos.

!teddy_the_dog@piped.chrisco.me :)

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does that work? Are you streaming the videos from your pc in this scenario?

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its mine. Its just a server I set up. On most fediverse stuff they get my posts as videos. I also have private channels I only let certain people have access to. Its pretty easy to self host in my opinion. And anyone watching/serving up my videos becomes a peer like P2P. Its on the equivalent of a raspberry pi.

I dont wait for others to solve my issues, I just solve them and move on. This is part of it. It turned out much better than I thought TBH. And if I want more space, I just go out and buy the hard drives.