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I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc. If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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[–] mauvehed@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw this image on Reddit.

And now I am here.

[–] Canyon201@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

  • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
  • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
  • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
  • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
  • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
  • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
  • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
  • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
  • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
  • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

The code review can be found here

Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know, when people say piefed is like reddit, I don't know if they realize it's exactly like reddit.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't see how those things in total make it like Reddit. For one, Reddit is overrun by AI slop in many areas. Piefed actively tries to mitigate it.

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[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

To be fair, people can already use alts to upvote on the fediverse right now. It's just obvious when they do so because of public voting, so doing so normally gets an account banned.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 days ago (14 children)

80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

[–] Krakova@piefed.social 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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[–] Mortoc@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like an excellent feature. Fuck people trying to make money I wanna post stupid memes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago

fucking awesome for Lemmy, kinda bad for video that takes 40 hour workweeks to produce.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it's harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reddit has a pro-fascist problem. Calling them out will get you banned.

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

Pro fascist and heavily AI moderated now.

I made two jokes using Australian colloquialisms and the system banned me twice for "threatening violence".

And you only get 200-300 characters to try and explain it.

Wtf.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

Their moderation is dishonest.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't feel like loops is ready for this exposure. Not yet.

If folks can't install it through the regular stores or even f droid then it may risk always being the complicated and nerdy alternative.

Kind of like Linux has problems getting out of the very techy reputation that it used to have

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 43 points 4 days ago (16 children)
[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (44 children)

PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)

I switched to PieFed a while ago, it's the same thing but better (IMO)
It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)

It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks. Try out both, see which you like.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 36 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Damn. Trashing Lemmy on Lemmy.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 days ago

The person you’re replying to is actually coming here from Piefed, à la the magic of the fediverse.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.europe.pub 14 points 4 days ago

In a way yes, because this post is in a community running on a Lemmy instance. But at the same time: The user was did not use Lemmy to write the Lemmy trashing :)

(And Lemmy is good. It's just, PieFed is so much better!)

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

That’s freedom.

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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're on mobile you probably won't really notice much of a difference, the mobile apps are yet to implement the new features.

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[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My god, thank you for putting the names under the logos. I've seen too many people just put the logos without any text because it's "clean", but then the viewers have no idea what to search for lol

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[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

wtf? you mean reddit -> lemmy right?

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

PieFed = Lemmy but better. (In my opinion)

They share the same content, but PieFed has more features and better UX.

I'm typing this from PieFed right now

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[–] Darkness343@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Piefed? Wasn't the replacement Lemmy?

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.europe.pub 11 points 4 days ago

PieFed has more features and can do everything Lemmy can. There are many things you can do in Reddit but not on Lemmy, but most of those are possible on PieFed.

A user migrating to PieFed is more likely to stay than a user migrating to Lemmy, because they won't have a feeling that there are familiar features lacking. You don't have flairs, multireddits (a.k.a. feeds), polls, events, personal notes on users, or notifications on new posts/comments on Lemmy, but on PieFed you do.

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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago

Lots of people are upset with the censorship happening on TikTok and are uninstalling TikTok, this image might be useful to show to them.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I wish Peertube had more content, although I may just be actual garbage at finding it.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 15 points 4 days ago

I recently contacted a content creator at youtue asking if they might also share their content on peertube as they have the rights to do so. Maybe this is a way of getting more content.

Since the videos are already made for yt it shouldn't be a lot of more work to do for creators.

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[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Users are trapped by the network effect and a desire for ease of use over anything else.

The corporate alternatives will always be an easier sell.

Twitter > Bluesky
Instagram > Upscrolled
TikTok > RedNote
Reddit > no corporate alternative
YouTube > no corporate alternative
Discord > no corporate alternative

To get the average user, you don't just have to convince them to leave Twitter, you have to convince them to leave corporate social media and all of their friends that still use it.

You have to convince them to accept additional inconvenience and complexity (@usernames and @instancenames?) in exchange for no direct, tangible benefit. (We know it's worth it, but the average user doesn't know and doesn't care.)

The people who could handle that are already here. Adoption going forward will be (at best) a slow trickle until we reach some level of critical mass.

Why people don't leave RedditReddit has the advantage of years of community-built knowledge, and it's a "one-stop shop". Looking for the gaming community? Go to reddit, type in gaming, it'll be in the top 3, if not the top 10.

Go to the threadiverse, and you have to run the gauntlet of servers (what's an instance?), deferated instances (why can't I see XYZ?), and 20 communities with similar names (which gaming community is the "real" one?). The switching cost is too high for most as long as Reddit still exists.

Why people don't leave DiscordDiscord is easy to set up, and they're digging their claws into game dev by making it easy to monetize communities (enshittification, here we come!).

~~Revolt~~ Stoat isn't federated, so each server is segregated from the others. As they grow, users will centralize for the sake of convenience. My bet is they either sell out or remain a niche alternative.

Element is (still) too complicated and unreliable. Audio sharing is inconsistent (no audio streaming on desktop screenshare, mics won't work, etc). Video calls aren't fully implemented.

::: spoiler Why people won't leave YouTube No one can match YouTube's sheer scale. They have billions of videos and billions of users. Their monetization system means that creators are incentivized to create quality content for the platform.

By contrast, PeerTube's best content is often mirrors or backups of content from other platforms. PeerTube is a great backup, but without monetization to incentivize creators, it's not a real alternative.

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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Question in the PeerTube, there’s like nothing there so why? Or are you saying we need to influx what’s on there and draw more people to it? Cuz the only way to do that is promise of monetization

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