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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump never gave a shit about the gun lobby. They're just useful idiots to him.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's true about everyone.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Teh ironies! It burns!

[–] Human@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The government out spends the public. Dont expect gun lobbies to side with the people - they know where their bread is buttered.

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In specifically small arms, I'm not so sure. I'd bet that the American public buys enough firearms every year to arm every American soldier two or three times over. Ruger and PSA aren't competing with Raytheon and L3Harris.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Americans buy a shit ton of guns every year. In just one day 200,000 background checks were submitted. If that’s at least one firearm per check (which I think you can put 4-8 per check) which is enough to arm the marine core.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/25/black-friday-posts-new-single-day-record-gun-checks-more-than-200-000/894706001/

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If that’s at least one firearm per check (which I think you can put 4-8 per check) which is enough to arm the marine core.

Most military members don't even have a gun...

I shot like 3 shotgun shells and maybe 5 rounds out of a Beretta at boot camp, and didn't touch another gun in uniform for four years.

I even did a few months as security at a pretty secure base, they didn't even give me a whistle. Just told me to scream and duck so the people trained to use guns would use them.

I think that reality gets lost when people talk about how large the US military is.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Right. I guess I should have clarified that it works be enough for each service member to be issued at least one firearm at the same time. From what I’ve gathered everything is shared, and those deployed overseas supplied their own magazines in some cases.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It all depends.

Infantry in a war zone have their own gun and it's their gun, with them 24/7.

Armed guards doing patrols with a rifle or sitting at a desk with a handgun likely just got handed one off a rack they turn in at the end of watch.

If you want to know why US troops (specifically Marines) have to buy their own accessories, Alexander Skarsgard explains it waaaay better than I can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZZnZG0cyI

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, "gun lobby" isn't the same as "military industrial complex"...

They have two very different objectives and surprisingly little overlap.

Most of the small arms the military buys, they buy so much it eats up the whole product line, and is based on contracts that go decades between reissue.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Mr "take the guns first, deal with due process later" doesn't care about gun rights? Really?!

As others have said, he never cared about them. And the signs were there to see. But too many people chose to ignore those signs out of convenience.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump makes an enemy of everyone sooner or later.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Mostly sooner. I can't believe people think they will be the lucky one that doesn't get shafted, but hope springs eternal and all that?!

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

He doesn't care who he makes an enemy of anymore.

He's accountable to nobody.

Let's stop pretending these stories of people "turning on Trump" mean ANYTHING for actual policy or activity going forward.

The first time anything MIGHT have any impact is after the midterm elections, and that comes with such a laundry list of qualifications...

It will require people willing to stop Trump to win those elections, but that's just step ONE, and that's the EASY step. Next, it will require democrats to be willing to grow a pair and stand for at LEAST one principle, it will require the executive branch to not simply IGNORE any directives or legislation (which they are ALREADY doing - talk to me when the Epstein files are released as required by law), and it will require the Supreme Court to not invent batshit reasons to neuter congressional power.

We are not at a turning point. Things will not get better until they get far, far worse.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Hates gun lobby, hates veterans, hates reasonable people. Nothing matters.