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[–] hoch@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh neat, the source in the article is a Russian state-owned news agency.

Your propaganda is not welcome here.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Fork found in kitchen

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 78 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Let's pause for a while and think about who controls the dissection of bodies, and who can tell coroners to sign statements in Iran.

Yeah, the Iranian government which just supressed the protests. And desperately needs a scapegoat.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True for sure. Also the source is TASS. On the other hand it's also true that Israel has interest in toppling the Iranian regime. It's a well established fact that Israel 's Mossad operates within Iran and funnelling weapons furthers that interest. I don't doubt Israel has done whatever they could to help the protest topple the regime, and I also don't doubt the Iranian regime did what they could to pin this on Israel and other foreign actors to deflect responsibility.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel even publicly admitted they have plenty of Mossad agents in the protest

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Israel is always honest.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When they boast about their crimes or gleefully display them, yes.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah there's no way they would take credit for stuff just to escalate violence against Iranians 🙄

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would taking credit for shooting Iranian children/supplying weapons to shoot Iranian children escalate violence against Iranians?

They want the narrative to be that the "Iranian regime" is shooting peaceful protestors, and for the US to bomb Iran...

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mosad like ISIS take credit for everything, because it induces a paranoia in their enemies.

Pretending nobody in Iran has agency except Mosad agencies is just helping Mosad, great job.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

That's a dumb take and it's not at all what I said. The Iranian government is capable of shooting civilians, and the Israeli government who proudly admits having many infiltrators in Iran and has conducted a massive progranda campaign prop the Zionist shah as a (exiled when his brutal US installed dictator father was overthrown) democracy loving liberal is known for shooting toddlers in the head... To dismiss that they could be involved is... just idiotic. Good job.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

anti jewish racism here on lemmy

never!

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com -3 points 1 day ago

I know this has nothing to do with it, just trying to gauge your honesty. What is the Hannibal Directive?

The chain of custody for this reporting is so rank it stinks to heaven. It seems to go IRG to TASS. The Iranian government is anything but leftist. It is not your friend.

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

So the Iranian Regime claims the children shot during the riots were shot by Israelis?

GTFO with these fake ass fake news.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If America and Israel were supporting protests in hell, I would have no choice but to support the devil

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

They have killed so many innocent people it boils my blood that they suddenly feign an interest in the "poor protestors" to manufacture consent for criminal air strikes and regime decapitation.

And of course liberals are there to pearl clutch about human rights and run cover for neocons as always.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know how so many people are still falling for this. Sure, the Iranian government isn't exactly "good", but they're the only major counterbalance to the genocidal Nazi imperialists that's left in the region.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

True. It is really something that Saudi Arabia is now getting closer to Iran when for the last decade they've been making overturns to get into bed with the Zionists.

Everyone in the region knows that if Iran falls then no one is safe from israel deciding one day that you have to die.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

They have no defined borders, the most extreme among them claim the whole middle east, and they just keep getting more extreme. The progression is obvious

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Israel sold weapons to Iran when Iran wasn't their enemy and Iraq was the main danger. They would have no advantage at all in squashing the uprising there. This whole article is misdirection and misleading, playing into the hands of Iran's despots. (Reading the article closely, which is a difficult task considering the horrible website, Iranian despots are claiming that Israel gave ammo and guns to the ones trying to revolt. That does make more sense, but the way the article is written, you can tell the whole article is propaganda for Iranian despots, because they spin it as a bad thing to help the uprising and use that kid caught in the crossfire as rage bait. )

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

The first casualty of war is the truth. We'll likely never know it.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 1 day ago

Where is it said Israel is stopping the uprising in Iran

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've never heard of thecradle.co, but now I know not to trust their news reporting.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

Tbf here too, IMI surplus ammo is extremely common.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Israeli military-grade ammunition embedded

Lol, lmao even, as opposed to civilian-grade ammunition.

Might as well describe Lemmy as a ring of gurlerilla servers using military grade encryption run on servers with links to Israel (e.g there's at least 1 kernel developer in Israel).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

how does one look at a fired round, presumably beat to shit from impact, and trace it back to a origin? unless this is people assuming the entire round fires and have no understanding?

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It was a kosher bullet obviously.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

how does one look at a fired round, presumably beat to shit from impact, and trace it back to a origin?

This took 5s to find using DDG

5 seconds of reading and critical thinking would dismiss what you linked. The posted article is for linking bullets to found guns. They didn't seem to find the guns. Just the bullets.

Also like much of forensics, forensic tool mark and bullet mark analysis is crock full of shit. Like much forensics, attempts to ground it in robust reproducable controlled science and statistical work has fared poorly. I would not rely on it for this or really anything.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Are you AI?

Because it took you 5s to find an incorrect answer and confidently link to a Wikipedia article, that doesn't answer the question.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it doesn't answer the question. Examination of the bullet can tell you something about what kind of gun barrel it was fired from. It cannot tell you that the ammunition itself is "Israeli military grade" unless Israel is doing something unusual with the composition of their bullets. As that page says (under the Criticisms section), comparative bullet lead analysis is not necessarily a reliable indicator of where the bullet was manufactured.

I sort of think that staring at bullet striations is basically tea leaf reading, but even if you think it's perfectly reliable, without a suspect weapon to compare to it can only tell you what kinds of gun barrels could have fired the shot.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Comparing metal composition to known samples has been around since the 18th century

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Well, this is what the linked article says about it:

Prior to September 2005, comparative bullet-lead analysis was performed on bullets found at a scene that were too destroyed for striation comparison. The technique would attempt to determine the unique elemental breakdown of the bullet and compare it to seized bullets possessed by a suspect.[47] Review of the method found that the breakdown of elements found in bullets could be significantly different enough to potentially allow for two bullets from separate sources to be correlated to each other. However, there are not enough differences to definitely match a bullet from a crime scene to one taken from a suspect's possession.[48] An additional report in 2004 from the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) found that the testimony given regarding comparative bullet-lead analysis was overstated and potentially "misleading under the federal rules of evidence".[47] In 2005, the Federal Bureau of Investigation indicated that they would no longer be performing comparative bullet-lead analysis.[49]

[–] flandish@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago