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[–] Qzr@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago

Lol, if Seoul is no. 5 in Asia, it means there are no cyclist-friendly cities in Asia. Maybe Christchurch is better, but even Taipei didn't strike me as cyclist-friendly at all compared to most European cities I know.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't deserve a place in the top 10. Maybe in the top 50. But the list is bs anyway.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh i dont know how it is there. But i just like it mentioned :÷

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Even though some claim otherwise, it's hands down the best city for cycling in Germany. But it still doesn't hold a candle against a lot of cities in NL.. lovely city though, and very young/full of university students.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

Yes. That i know

[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What the hell are these regional groups? Why is Mexico not part of North America? Why is ALL of Asia grouped with Australia and NZ?

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

Mexico not being there means a white USAmerican or Canadian made this list.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ghent absolutely does not deserve to be #3. There are probably at least 10 Dutch cities better than Ghent.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No Spain? Last I checked cycling here was very encouraged

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 20 hours ago

Spanish cities are among the worsed, when it comes to cycling modal share. It is very easy to find large streets within cities, which lack any sort of cycling infrastructure. That is not the case for quite a few other countries.

Just to be clear Spain is generally very walkable and has good public transport, but just not cycling.

[–] idealism_nearby@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I literally have no idea how any city on planet earth could be more cyclist-friendly than Amsterdam. They are treated with more respect than cars and pedestrians.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago

The number 1 is Utrecht which is basically a very similar city to Amsterdam but a bit smaller and less over-crowded with tourism and just in general. It makes sense to me.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I heavily doubt this list. As a NL native, I would guesstimate that probably the first 50/150 on this list should be dutch cities. Ofc that would be a boring list, but I have been in somewhere between 50 and a 100 EU cities and it looks to me like we have an extreme luxury here with our biking situation.

I've seen some larger cities in EU that seemed doable on the bike, but even then, lanes end at random spots and the network is incomplete. Are you supposed to mount the curb in those situations? Or take your chances mixing in motorized traffic with your 20kg vehicle? And the smaller EU cities I've seen weren't better.

Plus, Amsterdam could be fun to bike around if it wasn't bursting at the seams from the high amount of tourist bike noobies trying their first few km on the pedals. I'm happy they're here, but it's not an improvement to biking 😄 better off taking the tram.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. Amsterdam at no4? Above Groningen? Above Houten, the city designed around traveling by bike? Both of which aren't in this top 10? I also call bullshit on this list

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

Houten was not included in the survey. They only considered cities above 250k population and then somehow limited it to 100 cities. They also only consider the five best cities that participated in their survey, which mostly affected a bunch of large cities in Germany, including Berlin and Hamburg.

The 2025 Index ranks 100 cities which have been carefully selected in a transparent, multi-step process. The selection started off with a list of all urban areas of more than 250,000 inhabitants, while also including capital cities with smaller populations when their cycling modal share had become significant.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 1 day ago

Can confirm, any average dutch backwater has better bike infrastructure than Cph. It's not just bike lanes, the transitions, signalling and direction changes are far better thought out. 

What you mean a NL indigenous person?

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah as in born and raised. I guess the raised part is most important for this.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, okay, never seen the abbreviation. sorry,

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

Wild that you've never seen it, but I'm glad you learned

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 20 hours ago

Why does this look AI generated?

[–] TDCN@feddit.dk 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Copenhagen is too heigh on that list I think. It could still be a lot better. Still lots of dangerous right turns and non protected bike lanes and poor parking options. I'm most salty about lack of parking actually. Train stations also often lack elevators with proper space.

[–] trolske@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

In general I'm surprised how pedestrian unfriendly Danish cities are given how much space bikes get.
With the snow there recently was, bike lanes where free, while sidewalks where a mess.

[–] detren@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

In Amsterdam when it was snowing like 2 weeks ago they also didn’t clear the sidewalks at all except in the city centre.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My first thought looking at that list was that all those cities get snow. I hate the cold. Always have. I'd move to the equator if I wasn't capable of getting a sunburn in upstate New York in about 5 minutes of exposure. Thankfully IB, CA, US is fairly warm, and installing pretty good isolated bike lanes on many streets currently.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 1 day ago

It's because keeping the road and bicycle paths clear of snow are municipal responsibilities but sidewalks are the responsibility of whoever owns the land the sidewalk runs adjacent to.

There's basically no punishment for not clearing the snow, and there's no metrics for how clear it should be, so the sidewalks are always a mess when it snows and doesn't melt by days end.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Utrecht at 1! Mijn hemel!

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I was surprised to find it on the list. I would not want to bike in Helsinki

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Living in France, from what I know I disagree. Grenoble blows Paris away easily.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

The other ones must be very bad.

Interesting hearing bicyclist in the locations listed, I assume, calling BS on the list.

[–] eluvinar@szmer.info 3 points 1 day ago

Just came here to check if there's no polish cities. There shouldn't be! But we often end up on such lists for no reason I could understand (lobbying? marketing?)

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Montréal being at n.1 in NA but n.15 worldwide is representative of how sucky bike stuff is here. Although montreal's central neighborhoods would definitely crack the top ten if they were counted alone.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not Just Bikes on YouTube does a simultaneously loving and hateful video on Montreal biking. If I remember correctly, he basically says it's a very small region of Montreal that is bikeable, and that it's really piecemeal between neighborhoods as to what the infrastructure looks like. There was also something about disconnection from certain metro lines, but I don't remember the details on that clearly.

Also, I need to say out loud to someone that Guadalajara is in North America too... Wonder how it compares with Montreal for biking, given that they're somehow not on the same list?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

tbf since that video Montreal has gotten significantly better, and the places he complained about not being connected to transit have since been connected to the network by the new light metro.

The image shows that Montréal is in 15th place worldwide while Guadalajara is n.73

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's great to hear! You're reigniting my desire to move to Montreal.... If it was a Spanish speaking city instead of French I think I'd already be there.

The video had mentioned that the city was considering more car-free summer streets. Do you know if that has that come to fruition?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Frankly I haven't paid too much attention to car-free streets outside of my neighborhood, where other than a few pilot projects nothing much has materialized. Given the progress in other aspects of the city though I wouldn't be suprised though. I do know much of the downtown central road was redone to make it go from 4 lanes to 1 with the rest being given to pedestrians.

for the language thing if you move in to a more anglo neighborhood like mile end you can get away with not knowing any french for a while, and there are good (free!) french tutoring programs available to immigrants. You will need to learn french within like two-ish years though because then the Quebec government will stop sending you english versions of paperwork.

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