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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You know, firefox was a decent name all in all.. but can we stop naming browsers NounNoun?

LibreWolf
LadyBird
WaterFox
IronFox
IceRaven
IceCat
FireDragon
IceWeasel
SeaMonkey
SwiftFox

I get it, it's based on firefox^*^.

(^*^I didn't check that every one of those is based on firefox or even a browser, I just did a quick search of firefox alternatives to pad my list since i didn't have them memorized)

[–] Legisign@europe.pub 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Out of those you listed, LibreWolf and SwiftFox are not NounNoun: they are AdjectiveNoun.

[–] Kobuster@feddit.dk 1 points 4 hours ago

I always thought libre came from book. Does it mean freedom?

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Fair enough.

[–] Capitao_Duarte@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I'll allow it

[–] razen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I see what you did here

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • Netscape
  • Internet Explorer
  • Safari
  • Opera

I'm sensing a trend here.....

How about we start going with verb adjective?

  • Jump Big
  • Shout More
  • Deny Cute
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

How about a 16 word security key

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just switched to Waterfox. Other than having to setup desktop links manually, it’s basically seamless from Firefox.

How would this differ?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  • Both browsers are more private OOTB than Firefox.
  • LibreWolf has more privacy- and security-oriented defaults than Waterfox, like a halfway point between Firefox and Tor Browser:
    • It enables Resist Fingerprinting by default
    • It discards browsing history by default
  • It has a new Settings menu that makes it relatively easy to control these features that tend to break websites.
  • It lacks some of the customization features Waterfox pioneered.
[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Thanks for this. Appreciate it. I might consider switching again!.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Librewolf runs better on windows from experience.

Also my professors' lecture recordings on the bullshit microsoft cloud storage doesn't open on waterfox but does open on librewolf.

I still like waterfox more tho. It feels lighter and runs on android.

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

I feel torn regarding the lectures. Bs lectures sound bad, but being forced to use microslop seems somehow worse.

I have a few pcs and laptops on the go atm, so I plan to swap one to Librewolf and see hope it goes vs. Waterfox.

Unless I notice or am impressed by something noteworthy, I’ll probably just stick with Waterfox on the others for now.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you use Firefox sync, do not sign in in LibreWolf. It will ruin your settings.

[–] miked@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use FF sync in LW to keep my desktop and laptop synced. Haven't had any issues, even when switching between Win10 and a few Linux distros.

edit - when I switched to LW I stopped syncing with FF entirely.

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[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using Mullvad browser that was recommended for having the strongest anti-fingerprinting features. I would be interested in whether anyone has any idea how Mullvad browser and LibreWolf compare and which is "better" (or are they targeting different threat models?)

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[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just made the switch. Is there an easy way to import old Firefox profile locally? I obviously don't want to use Firefox Sync.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can import history, bookmarks etc as CSV. Or do you mean something different with profile?

A firefox "profile" is a directory with all current user's data on disk. This includes history and bookmarks, but also saved settings, passwords, extensions, cache etc. I would like to not just copy all of that, but select specific things. But its ok to start with a clean browser with only bookmarks imported for now.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I still don't understand why people are recently switching away from Firefox. The telemetry thing seems totally overblown. The ads are absolutely minimal. It's great software.

[–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's been a steady exodus since less than a year ago when they removed the bit from their TOS about never selling your personal data and promising to protect your privacy.

I believe the recent surge has been the forced integration of AI features which are on by default (arguments were made to at least make them opt-in and not opt-out). Such features compromise privacy and security.

They're actively doing everything they can to monitize the consumer and going against their supposed stance as the 'privacy focused' browser.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Noting their blog response: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/

Essentially, they claim to still not be monetizing the consumer. I can find no reporting claiming that they have monetized any consumer, and it's been almost a year.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A few things come to mind... for me the main reasons are:

  • The new Mozilla CEO pushes AI into Firefox, and for now it seems that it will be an Opt-out procedure to get rid of it. As a software developer with a bit of technical knowledge about ML and LLMs I have a deep mistrust against C-Level types blabbering on about AI as our lord and savior.
  • Mozilla is funded heavily by Google. Almost 85% of Mozilla's funds come from Search engine deals with Google. Google itself is one of the top 3 megacorps when it comes to surveillance capitalism, erosion of privacy and enshittification. You guessed it, that's not very trustworthy to me either.
  • There are more reasons, but I'm not a fucking wikipedia. Look it up if you really want to know.

Also I think it is good to have a choice, especially in the browser market where Chrome, Edge (MS-flavoured Chrome) and Firefox are the only viable mainstream choices for most people. If you're happy with Firefox, good for you. But there are valid reasons not to be.

  • So far it's just a tiny button in the bottom left corner that can be removed with two clicks. If it escalates then maybe I will worry.
  • That's fair but at the same time, at least it's a funded OSS project?

I can agree that Firefox isn't always taking the perfectly moral stance on every issue, but I just don't yet see a deal breaker materializing in the browser itself.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I just like the added privacy that privacy focused browsers...focus on. Not that deep really.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Yep, this fork is the one I use frequently and now that Mozilla has become a pro-AI-slop company, fuck the stock Firefox browser it is now complete and utter absolute dogshit.

Anyone still using the stock Firefox browser and still complains about other things violating their privacy are premium morons.

Cannot say this enough fuck the corrupt Mozilla Corp paid and essentially owned by Google, with a Rentier CEO

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[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Another privacy-focused Firefox alternative is Phoenix, which prioritizes security, freedom, and usability.

Unlike Librewolf - which sometimes lags behind Firefox’s release cycle due to its small development team (consider supporting them!) -Phoenix operates as an overlay on your existing Firefox installation.

Key limitation: Phoenix does not support DRM-protected video, so streaming services are inaccessible.

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