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    Edit: "Updating to the legacy 580xx drivers doesn't show me a desktop anymore", just in case someone else can stumble upon this by searching something similar.

    Thanks to @deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de and @Ooops@feddit.org I did try fixing it out of curiosity. I had forgotten to install linux-headers. Hopefully someone who actually has the same problem as me, and needs to fix it, can use the tips given in the comments. On my end, I just had to install linux-headers and one reboot later it worked.

    Always check if you have all needed packages and don't just "remember" that you had them installed.

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    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    Hey Look, it's me! I am on nobara against my fucking will. I spent all saturday screaming.

    I'm going to refer the shit out of this thread in my news battle to get my goddamn debian OS back. DNF is scary and I can't use signal.

    Here's my notes (WARNING: THESE NOTES LEAD TO FAILURE) :

    
    - get verson info for KDE and NVIDIA drivers
    https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//non-free-firmware/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-graphics-drivers_550.163.01-2_changelog
    https://packages.debian.org/trixie/nvidia-driver
    https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=trixie&section=all
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17999695/debian-package-dependencies-installing-specific-version-not-the-latest
    
    
    added changes to /etc/apt/sources.list
    https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Debian-13_notes
    
    2 - 16
    5 - 18
    8-17
    
    
    16 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    17 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security contrib non-free main non-free-firmware
    18 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates non-free-firmware non-free contrib main
    
    2 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie main (contrib) non-free-firmware
    5 deb http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates main non-free-firmware (non-free contrib)
    8 deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security (contrib) main non-free-firmware
    
    
    added git to /etc
    
    ran
      git config --global --add safe.directory /etc
    because I was geting thsi eror :
      fatal: detected dubious ownership in repository at '/etc'
      To add an exception for this directory, call:
    
    installing drivers
      https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Debian-13_notes
        apt install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-driver
    
    
        WARNING: No kernel headers were found, skipping module build.
                 To get the headers for the running kernel (6.12.57+deb13-amd64)
                 please install the linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-amd64 package.
       ran
            apt install linux-headers-generic
       to resolve
    
       I DID ACTUALL RUN THE FOLLOWING
       _____
       Post-installation steps for Trixie
    
        Optionally verify the result of the DKMS module compilation:
    
        # dkms status
    
        If you plan to use wayland (which is a default for both the Gnome and KDE Plasma desktops since Debian 12 "Bookworm") make sure to follow the Wayland Modesetting notes below.
    
            If gnome starts with X11, you may enable wayland support by enabling NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1 as mentioned below.
    
            If you plan to use suspend/hibernate functionality under KDE desktop environment, you may want to add another option to avoid graphics "glitches" after wakeup/restore:
            Warning: skip this step if you have Optimus hybrid graphics
    
            # echo "options nvidia NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-options.conf
    
        In most cases a restart of the system is recommended to fully load the new driver. For wayland, check again if modeset is properly set, as described above.
    
        _____https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA#Wayland_configuration and this wayland shit too
        _____
    
    [–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 92 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    You need a couple things:

    • The kernel driver (dkms)
    • Userspace component
    • Kernel headers (for dkms)

    First get your kernel headers, this is easy enough, but varies based on which kernel you have installed. The format of the package name is {kernel}-headers. If you have the linux kernel, get linux-headers. If you have linux-lts, get linux-lts-headers. If you're not sure on this, the command pacman -Q | grep linux searches for installed packages containing linux in the name. If you have multiple kernels installed, get the headers for all of them.

    Then install (from AUR) at least nvidia-580xx-dkms (display out) and nvidia-580xx-utils (Acceleration, like 3D and video decoding). If you have Steam or play Windows games under Wine, be sure to get lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils too.

    Also of note is the order in which you install things. Having the kernel headers installed is important for the DKMS modules to install succesfully. If you already have nvidia-580xx-dkms but were missing your kernel headers, you should reinstall it after installing your kernel headers.

    [–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago

    I keep hitting my face on the fact that DKMS modules somehow don't depend on the kernel headers and these have to be installed manually. This happened to me both in Arch and in Debian.

    Why does everyone seem to think that this makes sense?

    Thank you very much. I could've sworn I had linux-headers installed. Frankly, I might've had them on a different device for some other reason. This is why you check your packages kids.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    "Doesn't help" is a bit unspecific for an actual answer.

    I simply installed nvidia-580xx-dkms and nvidia-580xx-utils and that was all. If you did not already use the dkms-driver package before you of course also need <your kernel>-headers and dkms (but the latter should be pulled as a dependency for nvidia-580xx-dkms anyway)...

    Which automatically asks for the removal of nvidia-open (the standard package for the base linux kernel) or nvidia-open-dkms and nvidia-open-utils that replaced the earlier nvidia, nvidia-dkms, nvidia-utils packages when 590 hit.

    PS: If you still have stuff using 32bit add (you might have guessed the scheme by now...) lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils to replace lib32-nvidia-open-utils

    [–] emil_98@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Dropping an extensive explanation and how-to is a meme.

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    This is the way. I will edit the text of the meme to show the solution at the top. As I had said to another commenter, I could've sworn I had linux-headers installed. This is why you check even if you are sure you have a package. Hopefully someone having this issue will stumble upon it randomly.

    [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 67 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    RIP. Time to pull out the backup, amiright?

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (3 children)
    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    The backup specifically created for recovery…

    [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Designed to backup the recovery…:

    [–] errer@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

    It turned into a Llama 8 billion parameter didn't it?

    [–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

    Recovery's backup

    [–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Blessed be CachyOS for setting that shit up for me automatically.

    [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    While I agree snapper (what CachyOS uses) I very useful, it is important to draw a distinction between snapshots (snapper) and a proper backup tool (borg or restic). Snapshots are usually stored on the same drive, so in the event of a drive failure/corruption you are still very fucked. Proper backup programs also have other important features, like the ability to select remote locations, setup encryption, etc. DO NOT rely on snapper to (always) save your ass.

    That being said, I fucking love snapper and it was the main feature I was missing from openSUSE.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

    While the distinction can be important, the snapshots from right before the update are exactly what you want in this case over some actual but always somewhat outdated real backup

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    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Distro hopped recently. Loving it.

    Now I get to say "I use Arch, btw" while still having nfi what I'm doing.

    [–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I like diving into the deep end and drown a few times too.

    Have you heard of .pacnew files yet?

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    [–] the_q@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago

    AMDs AMDingly

    [–] Val@anarchist.nexus 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I just went over to NVK. I shouldn't really waste my time playing the graphic intensive games anyway. The indies are better.

    I tried dkms but it took so long to install I gave up.

    [–] edinbruh@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    OP has a pascal GPU, the Nouveau kernel drivers for pascal (which you need for nvk) aren't really suitable because they can't change the clock at runtime, you are stuck at boot clock (which you can configure)

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    [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    You have btrfs and snapper, and just roll back to a working version in the grub menu, and install the legacy drivers before it all goes wrong

    [–] KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I have ext4 and efistub, and the attention span of a squirrel.

    [–] Septian@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago

    I have never before felt so much kinship from a single comment.

    [–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

    I started to read your comment, but there's a car 100 metres up the road...

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    I'm safe, my ThinkPad doesn't have an iGPU, and there's no instructions on how to solder one onto an L440 motherboard.

    [–] hapablap@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Already bought intel. I am quite fond of the B580.

    [–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Good, as long as you checked the driver situation beforehand right.... Right?

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    [–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Using arch is the first mistake.

    [–] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I don't think its an Arch issue. But on a system that has snapshots or generations or whatever Silverblue term is then the 30s remedy is reboot to an old snapshot

    [–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    This can actually be done with any fs that supports cheap snapshots

    Omg I remember running into something like this about 12 years ago. TTY did help but did need a reboot. I had to arch-chroot off the live usb so many times that night, my first ever Linux installation and I fucked up the bootloader and initial packages so hard so many times. I felt so cool when I was able to switch to another tty without needing yet another usb boot. Thanks for that memory.

    [–] gegil@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Is nouveau open source driver for nvidia actually good for such old gpus?

    [–] KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

    Not for quite a few games. Some lighter titles might get away with it, but not a lot.

    [–] chocrates@piefed.world 8 points 2 days ago

    Oh man, I remember fondly the days of booting to no gui. Typing out error codes to another computer to Google.

    I don't think I miss it. Linux has been super stable for me for a decade maybe, and I've been trying to game on it, so I used to have to fight with "faster" drivers all the time

    [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

    What is the difference between arch drivers and say pop_os (my current daily)?

    Modern schoolkids don't read, so Arch should consider making 20-minute videos for every update. And a song like some of the *BSD.

    [–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Did you uninstall the official driver first? That is, the nvidia package?

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

    nvidia was automatically replaced with nvidia-open (also nvidia-open-lts, nvidia-open-dkms etc).

    Simply installing nvidia-580xx-dkms, nvidia-580xx-utils (and lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils because Steam still needs all that 32bit stuff), which automatically removes the 590-open stuff because of conflicts, should be all you need to do.

    PS: And of course your kernel's header package if you did not use dkms before... (dkms should be pulled as a dependency automatically)

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