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After the capture of Venezuela’s president and Trump’s musing about Greenland, Canada must consider the worst-case scenario

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[–] Toto@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seeing the world do … nothing with Venezuela is concerning

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The US intervening heavily in Latin america is pretty much their MO, with little international involvement.

We should have always been concerned.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Setting aside the very real threat of military action from the United States in the short term, Canada also needs to prepare for the reality that they can no longer depend on the US for strategic defense in the long term either. If their national defense strategy depends on the American voters never electing a person like Trump again, they are in for some really unpleasant surprises.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Canada also needs to prepare for the reality that they can no longer depend on the US for strategic defense in the long term either.

That has been fairly obvious for the past 11 months.

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

lol… voting

[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might be a bit hard to unite that effort with Alberta being a lil bich

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Actually, Alberta is a HUGE traitor bitch. I say we force-feed those hicks some history. WWII. Their grandfathers fought and died here, and in Europe fighting Hitler.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What's interesting to me is that Canadian MSM is now saying this out loud.

Fight, flight, or freeze. How would you respond? How will you prepare for one of those three?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not the globe saying it.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

They're still publishing it. Which is more than before.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How about this?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-sunday-editorial-venezuela-warning-for-canada/

The motivation is simple, and ancient: empire. Saturday marked the formal debut of an imperial America, led by a president who recognizes no law, save that of the jungle. Already, Mr. Trump is turning his attention elsewhere, saying in an interview Saturday that “something’s going to have to be done with Mexico.”

Every country in the Western Hemisphere should be worried, particularly this country, which Mr. Trump so obviously covets as a 51st state.

The phrasing isn’t as alarming but the sentiment is the same.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What's interesting to me is that Canadian MSM is now saying this out loud.

That's crazy indeed. I think it's a positive development in some regards.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it? So far all I've seen from these US threats is our government use them to pass bills that increase and quicken resource extraction, bypassing environmental protections and alike.

5% increase in military spending with no new tax increases, just reductions in civil service sizes.

They're basically using this to frighten us into giving our oligarchs everything they've wanted.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, that's a major downside. That said, the threat is real. Probably more an economic one than military, but nevertheless they are capable of forcing us to give them our resources to extract and exploit our labour to line their oligarchs' pockets. So I think it's good to acknowledge the threat but we need to respond with strengthening our economy, production capacity, self-reliance, and most of all - our social cohesion via getting more of what we produce into the hands of the workers that produce it. Chances are our government won't be going in that direction since it's not profitable for their largest donors, but we have to work to force them to.

E: When I say stronger economy I don't mean what Carney's doing, trampling the environment and people to line oligarchic pockets. I mean an economy that benefits working people much more than what we have now. Directly via higher wages, indirectly by producing more domestic goods, providing quality universal care and so on.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I gotta wonder who the María Corina Machado of Canada is going to be.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

I think we all know who the premier of Alberta is....

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

You mean a puppet used to foment anti-Canadian unrest to be thrown in the bin once her usefulness has run out? 😅

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is no one in Alberta being educated about WWII and Hitler? JFC. We are watching Trump following Hitler’s playbook. Europe is banding together over Greenland. USA sucks

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Is no one in Alberta being educated about WWII and Hitler?

You think Alberta doesn't think Hitler was cool?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

That's the first woman president of Southern Canada...that's the Canada that has Tijuana in it.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Besides continued diplomacy with potential allies who maybe won't just sign angry letters and sternly wag their fingers at a camera if/when we get invaded...

What else can we do with a tiny population and a dwarfed by our enemies military budget?

Nukes, anyone?

I'd like to hear some suggestions beyond "maybe we should do...something...idk what."

I mean besides sabotage after the fact, that's a given and I'm read up.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yay, let's waste more billions on the CAF and drain social programs so we can become like the US while avoiding becoming the US.

The problem with these right wing rags is that they never state what they mean, nor explain how to fund it. What they mean is spend hundreds of billions on war toys made abroad from tax revenues and cuts from all other programs. These assholes never suggest a military tax.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Hi, it is me, Poland, in 1936. Nothing bad will happen. Just focus on the cost of living and ignore what's happening next door.