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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I game much more and buy more games because of my deck.

Also, whoever was on here chatting up rimworld as a fun simulator game...

Fuck you. That was my winter break. I had planned on doing things.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Lmao. It’s okay, I lost my winter break to Power Washer Simulator. 60+ hours and still going.

I can stop anytime I want, I swear.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait until you try the expansions. Biotech alone completely transforms how you play in a horrifically addicting way.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

(enters steam store)

Also, does this thing like, never go on sale?

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Very rarely. Originally Ludeon said they'd never offer discounts, same as the Factorio devs, but they eventually changed their minds. Sales still only happen once in a blue moon and are barely worth the wait. The highest Rimworld has ever been discounted is 20% off the base game and 10-15% off the various DLCs.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's so worth it at full price. The DLCs add so much that I can't even imagine playing without them at this point.

Biotech literally adds genetics, and Ideology adds religions. All procedurally generated and modifiable

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Just the first time.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When you get bored of rimworld in a few thousand hours and are ready for something similar with a larger scope ceiling, try songs of syx.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Song of syx is much smaller then rimworld. So much of the game is fake hand waving to make it feel bigger.

The ai not having to follow like any of the rules the player does and so much of the world being a fake sim hurts it massively.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

larger scope

Yeah, it's a cool game, but no way it's larger in scope than Rimworld

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i feel you, but you obviously haven't had a colony with 400+ civilians and no lag. Rimworld can't do that. Songs of Syx can.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

It's apples and oranges

[–] BunScientist@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but I like knowing the colonists!

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

that's fair

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Oh then you should just play Oxygen Not Included, a much more relaxed and simple colony sim

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

You probably shouldn't look into kenshi then, just FYI.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a pretty good desktop pc that runs linux, and I still choose to use my steam deck 2/3rds of the time simply because it's more convenient

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 3 days ago

Same here. Plus I like to play casual games, so my gaming rig is in the living room for my wife.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Hoping the Steam Machine can match the Steam Deck in success and get pre-build desktop/minipc wins like Lenovo having Steam OS versions of the Legion Go. Steam Frame dethrone the Meta Quest hopefully

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just hope Steam frames aren't too pricey, desperately don't want them to fail.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. With PC VR headsets there is viable competition, but we desperately need real competition for Meta Quest headsets.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

I still wish Microsoft still worked on windows mixed reality headsets. I only bought one because it was $30. It was the most fun I've had in a long time.

[–] vetehinen@lethallava.land 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@Anivia@feddit.org @FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca Quest is hard to compete with since Meta has driven the cost fairly low, pretty sure Frame is going to have a somewhat higher price tag, hopefully so much less than the Index that it matters.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would not mind a higher price. As it stands the Meta Quest has no serious competition regardless of your budget. Paying a premium to have the peace of mind that Zuckerberg isn't spying on what I do in private while using the headset would be a fine tradeoff. And potentially having access to the SteamVR library without needing to connect to a gaming pc would be the icing on the cake.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm expecting to pay around what the Index costs. I can get a Quest for quite a lot less but I'm refusing all of that Meta business.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With the current RAM prices I wouldn't be suprised if the steam machine gets delayed indefinitely. No one's gonna buy it if it costs 1000+$

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one's gonna buy it if it costs 1000+$

Console prices are going up as well. So long as the price of a console + online subscription + higher game cost is comparable to the Steam Machine's sticker price it could still sell

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 2 days ago

People can still decide to not buy anything at all

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

At a minimum it should be popular enough to be a good reference machine for indie and AA developers to ensure good performance.

[–] scott_the_sloth@lemmy.today 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Steamdeck with emudeck installed is a game changer

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sets up a bunch of emulators and a frontend for them

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I've been playing through monster hunter generations ultimate using it, it's been a great time

[–] Rug_Pisser@piefed.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Now all I need is few more hours in the day to play the damn thing! Maybe just an extra day fitted into the weekend there somewhere?

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My plan for the weekend is to install SteamOS on my Lenovo Legion Go. Supposedly it runs stuff a lot better than Windows so I’m looking forward to trying it out.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It integrates better than Bazzite on it.

Which weirdly makes me annoyed at Valve's lack of interest in expanding SteamOS beyond first party hardware.

It does mostly work, though.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

There’s other open-source bits of software to get stuff working like I expect it to, so I’m not too worried.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ha jokes on you, as now my pc is broken I even use linux steam deck env as my main pc. Power of having linux on a cheap small device, albeit locked system files make some advanced setups a headache. But hey it runs all the good IDEs and Godot, with bluetooth keyboard & mouse I can code ez.

[–] Drasglaf@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

albeit locked system files make some advanced setups a headache

You could install something like CachyOS Handheld Edition. It still has SteamOS' game mode but also comes with pacman and paru.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'll stick with existing setup for now. The thing I'm most annoyed about is that linux uses ctrl shortcut space for all editing stuff, and I'm used to macos cmd space. I've swapped cmd & ctrl in the settings, and it's mostly fine, except emacs not having separate meta/hyper/super keys. And it's not respecting system-wide cmd+c cmd+v, cause it's now ctrl.

I guess I can live without emacs for now.

[–] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I got mine 2 months ago. Have played and bought so many more games now due to its convenience. Love ma deck.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Harder mister valve, please.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats lower than previously. Wasnt it 32% before?

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 3 days ago

That suggests linux gaming is growing faster than decks are selling, which makes some sense to me.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Heck yes, I always [ redacted ].

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused, is that supposed to be good or bad? A lot or a little? That article seems to be making a heck of a lof of excuses. The hard pivot from "the Deck is an unmitigated success!" to immediately, quietly admitting it hasn't outsold any actual handheld console is... kinda weird.

I like the Deck, and its influence in the market is clearly outsized... but it's still a fairly niche product, and for the price I'm actually a bit surprised at how not-mainstream it remains.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

is that supposed to be good or bad? A lot or a little?

Neither. It's reporting, not an opinion piece.

That article seems to be making a heck of a lof of excuses.

No, it doesn't.

The hard pivot from “the Deck is an unmitigated success!” to immediately, quietly admitting it hasn’t outsold any actual handheld console is… kinda weird.

It sold millions in a market that was up to Deck's launch owned by small manufacturers that sold on crowdfunding platforms in production runs that may have been only in the tens of thousands. Stating that Steam Deck is a success is not a contradiction to Nintendo Switch being an enormous success.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

See, that's the type of justification that doesn't sit well with me and that the article is doing all over the place.

Is the Steam Deck a very successful handheld PC? Sure. Compared to the boutique stuff sold on Indiegogo by Chinese manufacturers it's probably an order of magnitude larger.

Except it's also not priced like one of those (or wasn't at launch, anyway), it's priced like a console, with the LCD model (while it lasted) priced right alongside the Switch OLED and a bit cheaper than the Switch 2.

And by that metric it's done poorly, with best estimates placing it right alongside the PSVita at the absolute best, lifetime. The bar for success on that scale isn't "selling millions", it's selling tens of millions, which the Deck has struggled to do.

So, all fanboyism aside: The Deck did well for a handheld PC, but kinda failed in the attempt to bridge the gap between those and handheld consoles. That, if you're keeping track, is "reporting, not an opinion piece".

This?

Valve’s Steam Deck has been a runaway success. While the beloved handheld has sold less than most major console handhelds, it’s become a valuable system for many to take their PC games on the go.

This is an opinion piece.