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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So regardless of the fact that it's about an optical connector here, and hence completely nonsensical, gold is actually a worse conductor of electricity than copper or silver. The point of gold plated connectors is not so much to improve the immediate audio quality, but to prevent oxidation of the connector over time, which can degrade quality and lead to bad contact. Gold is a noble metal, so doesn't oxidize. I would think most audiophiles know this?

I used to have to replace the cable of my electric guitar every few years because the sound would get crackly or drop out intermittently, I eventually got one with gold plated 6.35mm plug and I'm still using that same cable 15 years later.

You are correct; the point of gold plated contacts is anti-corrosion and long service life not for absolute highest conductivity.

I'm a ham radio operator; I have some silver-plated antenna connectors, because antenna feedlines are dealing with extremely weak signals on receive, so any loss you can eliminate in the connector the better. Problem is they corrode to hell everywhere they aren't tightly screwed together. For consumer AV equipment the signals are basically never weak enough to bother with that.

I would think most audiophiles know this?

They're not marketing to audiophiles. They're marketing to dudes and dads. They aren't trying to get the guy hooking a manual turntable up to a tube amplifier, they're trying to get the guy attaching a PS5 to an LG TV to a Sonos soundbar. They're going for the guy who is spending middle class money on AV equipment without bothering to understand it.

Wish I'd thought of it.

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Audiophiles are the stupidest conceited fools who have ever been parted from their money.

Don't forget your Audiophile grade cat5e cables for your NAS! Plug them in the right way though so the arrows point away from the NAS!

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unidirectional cables are very silly. I fixed a 300 foot unidirectional HDMI installed backwards during construction. I had to army crawl over ductwork.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

For HDMI this is common with active optical cables.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Directional cables kind of make sense in an analogue, single-ended connection if it’s about the shielding being connected to ground only on one side… although I haven’t tried it in practice. Still, it has nothing to do with signal directionality, just noise rejection. The ground lift switch on some devices does the same.

[–] BaconWrappedEnigma@lemmy.nz 247 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Is that an optical cable with gold plating to improve the electrical connection?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 166 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's called SCIENCE sweaty

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Yes.

It's also for digital signals, so interference doesn't matter (up to the point it stops everything).

But hey, it also has a silver ABS grip.

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[–] Darth_Brooks@lemmy.world 181 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I once had a Best Buy sales person tell me "the improved shielding helps with magnetism". I stared at him for a sec and said "if there is enough magnetism in my house to bend light, how my stereo sound really won't be one of my main concerns"

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But how many people do you think he used that line on and it sealed the deal?

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

Given the results of the 2016 and 2024 elections in the United States? Way way WAY too many!

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to sell TVs for Best Buy back in the day. The Video Department manager, my boss, set up a display side by side to show the difference between $40 Monster cables and the normal cables that came with a DVD player.

When there was no noticable difference, he went into the TV settings and adjusted the settings for the normal cables to make the picture look like shit. Not all customers are that gullible though, so usually one of the more savvy ones would fix the settings. So my boss would have to go in and fuck the settings up again once or twice a shift.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is for-profit deception AKA fraud.

Does this legally qualify as fraud?

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's for those occasions when there's a black hole passing through your house. Gotta be prepared.

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Hey man, you realize everytime you turn on your stereo your couch starts sliding towards it?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 143 points 2 days ago (7 children)

My favorite story along these lines...

Someone compared Monster cables to un-bent coat hangers.

https://gizmodo.com/audiophile-deathmatch-monster-cables-vs-a-coat-hanger-363154

"Seven songs were played while the group was blindfolded and the cables swapped back and forth. Not only “after 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire,” but no one knew a coat hanger was used in the first place."

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a classic.

A few years back in a HiFi - fair there was a seller who pushed these fist sized wooden blocks that were meant to raise the cables off the ground and therefore "prevent the Earth itself from tampering with the signal".

So he was basically trying to sell very expensive magic wood.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Earth: look at my mighty magnetic field that pushes back the very radiation of the sun!

Wooden block: hold my beer

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's a classic and I am glad it see it passed around again. The best part is the people that start delving into the snake oil absurdity that is "audiophile cables" before, you know, getting better actual speakers/headphones. Like for fucks sake, your $200 fancy cable isn't going to make your bullshit bargain bookshelf speaker into the voice of god. Just get some half way decent equipment and listen to your actual music.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yup, there is a lot of snake oil in the audiophile world. The worst instance I saw was someone posting about an intermittent buzz in their system. Multiple people were recommending a full rebuild, (which would cost thousands of dollars). From what they described, it was pretty obvious that OP just needed a ~10¢ ferrite bead on a power cable, to make it stop acting as an antenna.

I was like “okay, you could try rebuilding your entire system like everyone else is suggesting… But maybe start with a ferrite bead. Here is a link for a multipack on Amazon. Worst case scenario, you’re only out like $5. And even if it doesn’t fix this specific case, the multipack is handy to have around anyways, because manufacturers often cheap out and skip adding them when their devices really do need them.” Like three days later, I got a “holy shit this actually worked. You just saved me thousands of dollars (and a ton of time) on a complete rebuild.”

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[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worked at a big box electronics store back in the day. Problem was we only sold two kinds of cables.

1 - shitty cables with the ends crimped on that will fall off after three uses.

2 - way overpriced gold plated cables that cost 10x or more.

I'd love it if we sold something in-between, but you absolutely could tell the difference between those options. Mostly cause the RCA ends didn't make an actual decent connection to the equipment, so it wiggled around and induced static into the signal.

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[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I have friends that are hardcore record collectors of obscure 70s punk, power pop, glam, etc. They have Marantz receivers and top of the line turntables, setups that approach like 10 grand. Then they listen to some of the most poorly recorded, cheaply pressed vinyl you can imagine.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Um you mean greatest music ever made vinyl SIR. The hiss and pop is part of the experience!

Seriously though, I love old punk records, especially when you can find self pressed shit from the 70s. Yea the quality sucks but god damn I’d rather hear that than overproduced, built by focus group crap today /rant

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 31 points 2 days ago

To be fair, it was 4 coat hangers. The Monster cable was therefore outnumbered.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Installing cable TV at a man's house, ripped his Monster coax connector off. He was appalled! (I was appalled!) Showed him what I was replacing it with. Parts guide.

"The shield is quad-woven steel. Yours was 1x of angel hair copper. The dielectric is solid, not a noodle. See? (bendy, bendy) Foil shield? Uh, did yours have one? Oh, I see the shredded bit right there!"

Bent the center conductor on his Monster cable with my pinky. "Try that with mine." Stopped him before he hypodermic-needled himself.

tl;dr: Whatever the cable guy cuts for you is miles above Monster grade.

It's like Yeti gear. "So you paid $35 for a cup that's simply a vacuum sealed canister? I got a 6-pack off Amazon for $25. Cute colors too!"

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Toslink is optical, right?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

And I think the gold and silver parts are usually just plastic.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I miss when being an audiophile was just using vintage equipment and/or opting for lossless formats over compressed mp3s.

Gold plated connections have a point, it prevents corrosion extending the life of the cable. Whether you think it worth that price is another thing entirely.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's always been a group of audiophiles with more money than sense. To the point that "audiophile" almost feels like an insult to me, and I'm a man who...well...loves his audio. They should have a word for that.

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[–] Cornflake@pawb.social 91 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ah yeah, you know the gold plated connections make all the difference for the fiber optic connection

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[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ABS Silver Shell

silver-colored plastic

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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Those 128kbps are going to be well delivered, that's for sure.

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

The biggest impact I ever saw was an electrical filter for advanced audio systems. It’s basically an alternator. And it was the most impressive piece of any audio system I sold.

[–] abcdqfr@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You can sell aluminum free baking soda and convince someone baking soda contains aluminum. Fads and marketing are becoming an epidemic

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have no idea what the fuck this meme is about. I gather from the comments it's something to do with audio stuff? Why is this cable bad? What the fuck is it even supposed to be? I'm so confused

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The cable is fiber optic, which is to say light. Light don't care about gold and silver. The highly polished lens bit is probably also bullshit, but at least light cares about lenses.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The gold isn't there to conduct anything, it's there to prevent corrosion, gold doesn't rust or tarnish.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

More generally, it’s not that cables are bad, it’s that audiophiles have way more money than sense. I’m not exaggerating when i say that I’ve seen short speaker cables sell for £6,000. Anything more than £5 will be of exactly the same quality as the £5 cable. You could maybe argue me up to £15-20.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

This is even funnier considering the fiber element in toslink is actually plastic which was chosen to make it really cheap since the distance was not of concern like a proper multimode fiber cable made with glass.

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