A 5.5” screen is way too small to be worth it. If this costs more than an an iPad + iPhone Pro, this thing is gonna flop more than the Vision Pro did.
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It too late for this product to succeed. If it isn’t absolutely perfect, it won’t matter that it’s great. It took so long to get here the public has unrealistic expectations now.
Meanwhile, the techbros and pretty much poisoned consumer electronics and everyone is looking for a way to jump ship.
I think we are going to see Linux phones get sales like the iPhone air did this year, which weren’t great for Apple but mean something very different for competition.
That is literally a Pixel Fold
I would like a feature where you fold an iphone into a linux phone.
Gonna need to ask santa for that next year ;) you juuust missed the cutoff.
I'm quietly praying a certain launch goes so we'll we see a steam phone eventually.
There are a few people that Apple would love to delete from the face of the planet.
Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who’s consistently divulging Apple’s plans, is one. TF International Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who is always sharing information based on his supply chain checks, is high up on the list, too.
Apple uses Gurman for controlled leaks to build hype. He hasn’t been sued yet.
But YouTuber Jon Prosser is public enemy number one that Apple is trying to truly silence. And for good reason: the man who Apple sued in July for leaking iOS 26 and Liquid Glass keeps spoiling Apple’s unreleased products with high-quality 3D renders in his videos
Now Prosser, Apple definitely doesn’t use him for leaks since he is being sued. He’s just an idiot.
I like the idea of a foldable phone but what I really want is a phone that folds enough to fit in my women’s pants pockets.
Some of next years linux phones look quite compelling. Lora radios and powerful enough to pull off what canonical and Microsoft failed to do years ago.
If they succeed, it will be absolutely devastating to an industry that absolutely deserves to be slapped around. One device that transforms to full multiple demands based on what you plug it into. It’s the continuum concept without Microsoft tripping over its own dick.
Personally speaking, requirements for a phone now include a high resolution camera, NFC payments, some sort of screen mirroring for cars.
I had to revert from gOS because two of those were not working.
The other solution is to make women's pants with pockets that can actually hold things.
inconceivable!
They do, they're just not skin tight. You can't really fit much into a pocket in super tight jeans.
You've obviously never shopped for women's clothes. Even sport shorts don't have pockets, it's absolutely ridiculous
Yes and no… Women do complain about a lack of pockets, while simultaneously buying pants that physically don’t have room for pockets.
But on the other side of the same coin, women’s heavy duty cargo pants have smaller interior pockets too. Like the exterior pouch pockets may be the same/equivalent size, but the main front and back pockets are often still tiny. There’s no real way to rationalize that or blame women for it, because that’s the entire point of the pants, and there is 100% enough room for larger pockets in those baggier pants.
And no, they often can’t just buy men’s pants, because the cut is very different. Guys tend to have narrower hips and wider waists. Women wearing men’s pants will tend to have the waistband fit (but can’t get their hips into them) or be able to get their hips into the pants (but then need to cinch down the waist by a ridiculous and uncomfortable amount). Women’s pants tend to have more hip room and narrow waistbands, to account for that.
Even jeans that aren’t skin tight don’t have full pockets.
This is actually why I adore my Motorola razr. First phone I've had in I don't know how many years that fits easily into the front pocket of my jeans and is relatively unnoticeable. Love the folding form factor.
Wait your pants have pockets and they're not vestigial
Most of them are. I can really only carry things in back pockets, but then it makes sitting awkward.
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I mean, do they even have a case against them? It's not like they stole the information, or signed a contract with Apple.
Also, fuck Apple, and Google, and the rest of them. If they can't keep a lid on their "secrets", that's on them.
I'm focusing on the lawsuit part, because IDGAF about new phones.
The biggest problem with these is the price. Apple wants us on a two year upgrade cycle but these phones are $1500-2000. That’s insane.
Apple was actually the first to offer several years of software updates and usually their hardware has been very durable. The 1-2 year upgrade cycle on Apple was only ever for stupid clout chasers who think it matters if you have the latest. Among regular Apple users, keeping a phone for years isn't uncommon.
Still wouldn't buy one of these because I don't want my phone to fold. I want a new iPhone mini. And ideally a Mini Pro.
I’m not sure if it’s possible but a mini pro but with good battery life would be the ultimate phone for me personally. I’m basically always on my feet but use my phone a lot so a large battery is important, but I also want a small phone and a good camera. I doubt that’ll happen though.
He says potentially 2000-2500 for this one.
I just bought a 1-year-old phone I really like for $120
Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.
Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.
Apple’s entire history as an org has been as a fast follower, not a first mover.
The Apple Newton is a great example of why they avoid being a first mover.
They've also become really, really good at outsourcing R&D to other companies. This lets them outsource the expense of trial and error, and swoop down with a mature product once everyone else has paid for it.
15 years ago they famously patented, and then leaked that they were working on a fingerprint reader authentication method, and then they watched the Android manufacturers bend over backwards to implement it so they could say they did it "first." In those early days of smartphones, being first to implement something and then claiming Apple copied it was a big deal for people who wanted to be first movers (today they are called "techbros"). Motorola Mobility ate the cost of R&D, was never able to recoup the costs, and ended up being sold to Google for their patent portfolio. By the time Apple released Touch ID two and a half years later, Motorola Mobility was a shell of itself, and ended up being sold a second time to Lenovo.
Foldable phones have been a thing for a while, and Apple just sat back and took notes on what everyone else was doing. Surface Duo killed Microsoft's last attempt at a mobile device. Now it's a relatively mature market (we have tri-fold phones for two years now and tablets that fold into a laptop with a bluetooth keyboard) and now Apple will swoop in and bring the rest of the market.
The money isn't in being a first mover; it's in making a reliable product that everyone can use. It shouldn't be lost on anyone that Apple made a trillion dollars while OpenBSD (upstream for a lot of Apple's ecosystem) struggled to pay its light bills.
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