Acktschually, that was the CIA's fault ... !!
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Has a single country that had the choice ever opted to stay with Russia? Genuine question.
transinistria and belarus sorta.
Hasn't this also been the reason behind fighting in Georgia?
Also Mongolia (sort of, the leadership wanted annexation iirc)
"Freedom"
>Becomes wage slave
congrats
Funny how 76 percent voting to keep the soviet union in tact wasn’t enough to stop Yeltsin from dissolving it. Its almost like it was purely performative and the will of the people didn’t actually matter. Almost like Yeltsin was compromised by capitalism.
This is wrong in so many levels.
First of all the vote wasn't for the whole Union because there were countries that outright rejected the idea of the union and never voted in the first place. 76% is only of the number people who voted actually voted, that's not indicative of the whole union.
And secondly the vote was for a reformed Union, not a continuation of the existing union. If the course of events had continued in the reformation of the union the union we know in the history books still would've ceased to exist.
And finally, with this not being a fact but generally accepted in the academia, people voted for stability not for the union. When it became apparent there won't be any stability people decided to fend for themselves. By the time Yeltsin dissolved the union it was already on its death bed.
It's also why none of the countries stayed socialist, because soviet socialism was a failure and instead of taking the time to figure out what a functional socialism would look like countries went with what seemingly worked, capitalism. Stability was more important than staying socialist, especially when the only empirical evidence of socialism was ultimately a failure.
calling soviet socialism failure is crazy. You know that it made semi feudal russia and other soviet countries and turned them into global superpower? More women rights, no homelessness, food on everyones table (except famines in early years), free education, free healthcare, rapid industrialization and much more.
Truth is, soviet union broke due to 3 decades of revisionism they went into after death of stalin and the uncontrolled bureaucracy. Soviet socialism was a big success and improved lives of people massively.
Almost all former soviet countries are worse off in multiple indicators today than they were in soviet.
Wasn't Chernobyl the main reason the Soviet Union collapsed and wasn't Chernobyl due to mismanagement because of wrong incentives (they had to achieve certain runtime numbers so they performed a critical test at night) one could argue were because of the Soviet socialism system?
If communism is so great why did east germany and north korea need to build giant walls to prevent people from leaving?
If communism is so bad and crumbles on its own, why did USA went on cold war with a country far more war torn and backward than them? why USA always tried to overthrow communist govt? why USA assasinated allende (who was a democratically elected marxist leader) and established pinochet (who was a authoritarian dictator) in chile? why did USA embargo Cuba? Why did France assassinate thomas sankara? Why did USA bomb vietnam? If communism is so bad, just let it crumble on its own? But no worlds biggest powers will try everything they can to break revolution, ofcourse they will succeed but our time will come. Dw
I am no expert but isn't it enough that the Sowiet Union was the next biggest superpower and they were in war mostly because they were afraid of each other and/or each one wanted to be the only superpower regardless of the economic system?
And even if it was about the economic system. One system can be much better than the other without the worse one automatically crumble on its own. Also both systems work best when they are the only system everyone is participating in.
Because they were satellite states of Russia. In the same vein, the capitalist satellite states (much of Africa, the Arab world, and South Asia) faired FAR worse injustices under capitalism.
No no you have it backwards. The wall was to stop the capitalists getting in.
In Soviet Russia, wall builds you.