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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is wrong in so many levels.

First of all the vote wasn't for the whole Union because there were countries that outright rejected the idea of the union and never voted in the first place. 76% is only of the number people who voted actually voted, that's not indicative of the whole union.

And secondly the vote was for a reformed Union, not a continuation of the existing union. If the course of events had continued in the reformation of the union the union we know in the history books still would've ceased to exist.

And finally, with this not being a fact but generally accepted in the academia, people voted for stability not for the union. When it became apparent there won't be any stability people decided to fend for themselves. By the time Yeltsin dissolved the union it was already on its death bed.

It's also why none of the countries stayed socialist, because soviet socialism was a failure and instead of taking the time to figure out what a functional socialism would look like countries went with what seemingly worked, capitalism. Stability was more important than staying socialist, especially when the only empirical evidence of socialism was ultimately a failure.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

calling soviet socialism failure is crazy. You know that it made semi feudal russia and other soviet countries and turned them into global superpower? More women rights, no homelessness, food on everyones table (except famines in early years), free education, free healthcare, rapid industrialization and much more.

Truth is, soviet union broke due to 3 decades of revisionism they went into after death of stalin and the uncontrolled bureaucracy. Soviet socialism was a big success and improved lives of people massively.

Almost all former soviet countries are worse off in multiple indicators today than they were in soviet.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't Chernobyl the main reason the Soviet Union collapsed and wasn't Chernobyl due to mismanagement because of wrong incentives (they had to achieve certain runtime numbers so they performed a critical test at night) one could argue were because of the Soviet socialism system?

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Nope, chernobyl was a disaster but I wont call it being the reason of collapse of SU. It may have been a catalyst for sure but SU was already struggling with slow growth in its last 2-3 decades. This myth was propagated by gorbachev who was an incompetent AH.