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Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is 'making Russia the enemy' - BBC News

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Because assassinating people all over the world makes you a trusted ally. Russia will always be their own worst enemy.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Russia routinely makes itself the enemy by always making threats and forcing themselves on others

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Classical abuser logic: they made me do it!

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's pretty obvious to everybody that Putin is making Russia the enemy. He didn't have to do that; Europe desperately wanted Russia to be a friend, but Putin had other ideas. It's his conscious and explicit choice to make Russia the enemy, and he's the one constantly talking about being at war with the west. Nobody else js doing that but Putin.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The West was making real inroads with Russia before Putin came along.

It's the same with every dictator there has ever been, they have to manufacture a war in order to justify their iron fist.

Capitalism isn't the best by any stretch but one of the things it's good at is making people realise that they will be much better off financially cooperating than having a pointless little war. War generates profits for the military industrial complex, but for everyone else they cost money.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

he wants the old soviet union back, where they owned most the countries in central asia, and some of eastern europe.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He wants the old Russian Empire back. Owning all the countries yes, but not even pretending to care about everyday people.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

They had their purpose, moving wealth back to Russia.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Russia is making Russia the enemy. If they don't like it, they can stop that today, by ending the war, and stop being massive dickheads.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Just like laws make a murder a criminal.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We are making Russia our enemy.

  1. Poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko (2004)
  2. Energy blackmail (2006)
  3. Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2006)
  4. Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko (2006)
  5. Murder of Sergei Magnitsky (2009)
  6. Energy blackmail II (2009)
  7. Creation of Internet Research Agency, aka troll army (2013)
  8. Started war in Crimea, illegal annexation (2014)
  9. Started war in Donbas (2014)
  10. Shootdown and coverup of MH17 (2014)
  11. Started supporting dictator Assad in Syria (2015)
  12. Assassination of Boris Nemtsov (2015)
  13. U.S. election interference I (2016)
  14. French Election interference (2017)
  15. Sergei Skripal poisoning (2018)
  16. Brexit referendum influence (2018)
  17. U.S. election interference II (2018)
  18. Tiergarten assassination (2019)
  19. Navalny poisoning (2020)
  20. U.S. election interference III (2020)
  21. COVID-19 disinformation campaign (2020–21)
  22. Full-scale invasion of Ukraine (2022)
  23. Bucha massacre (2022)
  24. Weaponization of energy against EU (2022)
  25. Forced deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia (2022)
  26. Migrant weaponization (2023)
  27. Rheinmetall CEO assassination plot (foiled) (2024)
  28. Election interference in Moldova & Georgia (2024)
  29. U.S. election interference IV (2024)

Russia is doing nothing wrong.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 4 points 22 hours ago

Also the colonization of Africa to steal all their gold and minerals while propping up warlords in exchange for armed Russian mercs that crush dissent. That's happening right now.

[–] lietuva@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's chechnya war and Georgia invasion, both which happened after fall of USSR

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

This was definitely not an exhaustive list.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't forget 2015 Jade Helm Scare, where they were testing their ability to manipulate using crazy stories on social media. Russia was able to convince gov Abbott of TX to order the TX National Guard to observe training exercises in Central TX because he was convinced that Obama had ordered the army to go into Walmarts, turn them into makeshift detention facilities and was planning to round up people that voted against him in a hostile takeover of the state. Obviously, it was just a training exercise, but the fear on the right was extreme.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Now that Trump is the one ordering national guard into cities they're a-okay with it. Just weird

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah the Russian propaganda machine doesn't mind what Trump is doing.

It's my understanding that Jade Helm was the pilot test to see what they could do with social media. Seeing how successful it was they turned their sights to the primaries and ramped up their efforts in the 2016 election.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Vlad and his MAGA buddies can piss in the wind. GTFO of Ukraine (includes Crimea), East Prussia, Karelia, and the Northern Territories.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol how can he say that with a straight face.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago

He's a sociopath

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Do you mean to tell me Ukraine started this senseless war? No? Then fuck off you dumb old man.

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