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Naughty Dog, Having Tried To 'Eliminate Crunch', Is Still Crunching (aftermath.site)
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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 points 5 days ago

What the hell was that excuse in the quote?

"We tried to tell our employees not to work on sundays, and then one guy told us once he couldn't work on that friday and that he'd prefer to work on sunday!"

This is absolute bad faith, it has nothing to do with resorting to crunch. You may make your schedules more flexible, for convenience. It's nice, but it's comparatively not a huge deal.

Problem is when you're making your employees work 12-hour days or a whole week with no rest day. Making it sound like one anecdote is ruining all your attempts to have an healthy work schedule is insulting to everyone.

[–] swicano@programming.dev 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We've tried nothing and we're all our of ideas!

Gtfo, if you want to eliminate crunch, just don't have them work more than 40 hours. It's easy accept that youre gonna miss some deadlines, cause you fucked up the planning. Promise your workers triple pay during OT and suddenly the middle managers ain't as motivated to try to force unofficial OT

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In Germany they brought in a rule that overtime gets paid from the managers pay check.

I never see my German colleagues working late any more.

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

nope, no such law in germany, what we have are strict laws on how long one is allowed to work daily, and the answere is: 8 hours, this can be extended to 10 hours for a short period of time but your employer must ensure that your average daily worktime will be at most 8 hours over a 6 month period. there are also regulations for how much time has to pass between the end of a work day and the beginning of the next. of course there are ways around this (self employment, hospital staff yada yada) but thats why most people wont work more than 40 hours a week.

e: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/arbzg/BJNR117100994.html that's the text of the german Worktimelaw, in german, if anyone is interested enough to read it.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

That's like a different universe, hard to even imagine we have a pro-worker policy that nice in the US.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Arbeitszeitgesetz

I was hoping for a longer word , but I guess Rindfleisch­etikettierungs­überwachungs­aufgaben­übertragungs­gesetz will have to wait for another day.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

They did? I never heard of that? Where can I read more about it to show it to my manager?

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The choice is to extend the deadline and work as normal or crack the whip in a vain hope you reach the deadline. Don't lie like a fucking cunt and say you had no choice.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

naughty dog workers need union to their life

[–] mohab@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yaaay, one more reason to hate Naughty Dog! I cannot wait for the mediocre combat that comes out of this. Will be totally worth it, I bet.

[–] lath@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Shitty work results from shitty work ethics? Say it ain't so!

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All this crunch just to still not have made a good game since 2004.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You can hate them. You can, personally, dislike their games. But to pretend like The Last of Us doesn't fall under every definition of a "good game" is just being willfully obtuse.

Like, I don't personally like racing games, but I'm not going to smugly claim that games like Forza aren't good. I'd have to really like the smell of my own farts to make that claim.

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't seem nearly as good as people claim though. I can't comment on their quality with certainty because I didn't play any of them besides Crash Bandicoot but at least their newer games seem very unimpressive to me.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 week ago

last of us more like the last game they should have made lmao