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[–] BarbedDentalFloss@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Is the killswitch in settings? Because I had to set browser.ml.enable to false in about:config since there was nothing related to it in settings

[–] SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that’d be like the web browser equivalent of going into the Windows registry editor and changing a value in there. Like, it’s there, but unless you already know what you’re looking for, it’s not really an option.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah. I'm still pissed off dev hours get wasted on this shit instead of, idk, HDR support? Surround sound audio?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They say a switch will be built in. There is no switch yet. Which means the deluge of little popups about AI tab grouping and the "look at Perplexity" messages are not going away until these changes are actually released.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

the killswitch is in about:config

browser.ml.enable
browser.ml.chat.enabled
browser.ml.chat.menu
browser.ml.chat.page
browser.ml.chat.page.footerBadge
browser.ml.chat.page.menuBadge
browser.ml.linkPreview.enabled
browser.ml.pageAssist.enabled
browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled
browser.tabs.groups.smart.userEnabled
extensions.ml.enabled
browser.search.visualSearch.featureGate
[–] XLE@piefed.social 23 points 3 months ago

That's... Not really a switch. If somebody has to go to a secret place, get past a warning sign, and type in a half dozen secret commands... it sounds more like an espionage movie than the flipping of a switch.

And people have already complained that some of those flags don't affect newer ones, which Mozilla keeps adding. We might as well say Microsoft has a setting to turn off telemetry, never mind it's also hidden and it also keeps getting switched back on.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

the killswitch is in about:config

Ah yes, the easiest place to put a kill switch for the average user, as opposed to the complexity of a toggle in settings.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 months ago

This is 12 switches

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago

Or you could just use Librewolf

FF build with adblock built in and AI/spyware ripped out

https://librewolf.net/

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[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 19 points 3 months ago

Thank god we have a photo of the firefox logo instead of an article

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"You won this round. But we'll try again tomorrow!"

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

then make it an extension.

the fact that they're entertaining ai at all is antithesis to mozilla's mission of an open and environmentally friendly web free from profit.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Get a new CEO and get back to us

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

This is good enough for me. This means the Firefox code base will not get so integrated with AI features that forkers cannot remove them, and that was my primary concern.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Firefox has actually become less stable for me, which is crazy because it was stable for several years.

It had gotten bloated and unstable when Chrome first came out, too.

Why does Mozilla always trend toward mediocrity?

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 months ago

The enshitification of Firefox may slow at times, but it's been consistently getting worse since Firefox 2.0 over 2 decades ago.

I wonder if it's google telling Mozilla what to do, to keep getting their money.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Opt-in you say? How about RMB click with AI chatbot that you can disable by clicking "Disable AI bot" there? Wasn't opt-in first. And, how is that in aboug:config .ml. list contains tons of entries set to True, rather than False? How in the fuck is it opt-in? It has been opt-out and in order to opt-out most of it, you would need an intermediate/advanced user. There was no toggle switch on a sidebar for normies to see and click. I call BS on this statement.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

not sure this is enough for me. Its too late and too large a faux pas to recover from. In my opinion.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 3 months ago

For me it's really not. If you don't need to opt out and are proud of your killswitch, just don't put it there for normal people.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago
[–] leadpipe@piefed.social 6 points 3 months ago

Too late, I switched

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 6 points 3 months ago
[–] Butterbee@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago
[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Lol, lmao. Still deleting firefox, get fucked. Mozilla betrayed its users trust by choosing to follow this slop trend, and they'll suffer the consequences.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

& you'll suffer the consequences of monopoly. Wait it out until LadyBird & Servo gets fully tested out

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago

They really should have come out with a local llm poduct seperate from firefox that is compatible with using it out of box.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh great, another item to waste my time checking when installing Firefox... Already takes near an hour to configure Firefox each time... Now have to watch out for the day they let the rest of that AI camel in the tent.

*Installs LibreWolf, stays sane*

i don't distrohop so my betterfox user.js is serving me well.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

5min ago some heresay said it would be easy to opt-out.

Can't believe anything until it's out.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

That's a contradiction

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