Been awake for more than an hour. Still took me about 10 seconds to realize that "Black Flag Officer," was referring to the color of his skin, and NOT the banner he was flying, possibly indicating Special Forces, or Piracy.
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I had the same reaction when posting to be honest
No no the Cardassians have the Obsidian Order fleet but Starfleet is only secretly run by lizard people at the top.
Lizard bug people
Watching this as a kid when it was new, scenes like this went right over my head. The only thing that seemed odd was a Russian crew member. I had a lot to learn about the world.
And that is exactly why it was so effective.
Like the old saying goes, "show, don't tell". TOS didn't need to shake us by the shoulders and say "look! There's a black woman in a respected professional position! Isn't that amazing‽" They just showed us Uhura doing her job, being treated the same as anyone else because it's the future and why would it be any other way?
Seriously. The modern trend of girlbossing every fucking thing is genuinely going backwards on the issue.
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Honestly, I'm really happy for you that you saw it as just another moment. That's the world I want to live in, it's the world I want to raise my child in.
That's honestly how we get rid of all this racism. Children are innocent, let them play with each other, let them talk, mingle, they will make friends irrespective of people's background.
I think the problem here is children are taught they are different, they are told they can't be friends, or hang with certain groups. They're told they can't talk the same way their friend does, they can't say the same words (might be controversial sorry, but children are innocent). And this is in cases where they are interacting, many communities are isolated and many children will only grow up seeing people like them. They don't learn about the diversity, they grow up having "us" vs "them".
If that continues, it'll never be better. Children are our hope, our grandparents are not going to change, but children can be, and they'll replace the current generation. Attack on education, and isolating communities makes the population stagnant, or even revert back.
Children suck, but the ways children suck are petty and personal.
The real bad shit is necessarily learned.
Children are innocent
I was the shortest of the class in my youth, which was reason enough to get bullied day after day. Some children are innocent, others just go along with bullies to not get picked on themselves and some are just absolutely cruel and vile if you're different. And it's definitely not always upbringing, the worst of the bunch actually had very nice parents, his brother was a great guy as well. But some kids are just rotten to the core.
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The series also featured green dancers a decade before US strip clubs.
i had no idea strip clubs were that recent
Only for green strippers.
Holy smokes. Fact of the day!
Misread "Black flag officer" as "Black Flag officer." I thought to myself: "Wait, Henry Rollins would have been too young to been in Star Trek."
same, but with different misunderstanding 🏴☠️ yarr, matey
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Okay so largely bc of lemmy's trekkie community I'm partway through my first viewing of Star Trek and enjoying it (starting with TOS ofc). And at some point the first yeoman gets replaced so I looked into it, some sexual harassment apparently she comes back later in a subsequent series. But then I thought I noticed Lt Uhura was also suddenly gone from the show. She wasn't, she was just not prominent for most of an episode, but before that it made me look into Uhura as well, hoping nothing irl made her leave the show.
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that actually she HAD considered leaving the TOS for some other gig but had actually discussed with Martin Luther King Jr. prior. Turns out one of the only shows MLK Jr. allowed his children to watch was Star Trek because of the representation of an equal society, and when confronted with Nichelle Nichols' desire to leave the show he became upset. He told her 'Don't you understand for the first time we're seen as we should be seen. You don't have a black role. You have an equal role.'
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Trek has always been political. Trek has always been progressive. Trek has always been sexy
It was the era of the mini skirt after all
For men as well (in one TOS episode at least)
If I'm not mistaken, Trek was on air during the Summer of Love
I agree with all the comments about the importance of representation, but he is wearing a red shirt.
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For me, this is nonsensical. Star Trek being political is a truism. It makes no sense to claim it. It's like saying politics is political.
Even talking about it is inviting a counter argument which can only be nonsense.
But I'm also old, from the time start trek was political.
Idiots complaining about how star trek is "political now" are speaking nonsense but they're still speaking. It's important to counter this because idiots, gullible folks, and people not paying attention, will be sucked in by the nonsense if it's unopposed
I'll never forget how disappointed I was, when Rage Against the Machine went woke!
So sad. Heartbreaking. They were so good before being woke!
My conservative dad showed me RATM as a kid.
His football team used to run out to Bulls on Parade, lmao.
It's whiny Nazi shit sticks who want to look at cool spaceship without being criticized.
And, like, sorry hypothetical Nazi bitchbaby, but the only SciFi that doesn't explicitly tell you you're wrong is so far above your head and would scare the shit out of you.
They don't want to have to deal with the fact that anyone who tolerates their existence is morally and more importantly creatively bankrupt. And if course they're Nazis, so they would rather deny reality than acknowledge any flaw with themselves or the dog shit they chug like a college freshman at jonestown.
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I think when people talk about fiction being too "political" nowadays, they usually mean one of three things:
- "I hate minorities."
- "I am only now savvy enough to notice the political undertones that have been a defining characteristic of the genre for a century or more."
- "The writing sucks."
Personally, I can get behind #3 because boy howdy there's some bad writing out there.
And I'll admit I occasionally fall prey to #2. Some things I watch today feel too "on the nose" in regard to current events, and sometimes it's hard to tell if it's truly worse writing than my old favorites or if I was just too ignorant, naïve, or credulous to pick up on it when I was younger. It's also sometimes hard to tell when re-watching old stuff because I don't feel the zeitgeist of 30 years ago in my bones the same way I do today's (naturally).
For example, I can watch an episode of Futurama that's literally about the world being nearly destroyed by a giant ball of 20th-century garbage, and somehow it doesn't feel overtly topical, while the new episodes about bitcoin and AI feel more like a sermon than a sitcom. Maybe the writing is worse, or maybe I'm just old now. Who's to say?
I think some of it is that the "political element" of the past became mainstream. Partly because it was a political element once.
People now, who most likely watched Trek in reruns 20 years after the fact don't see Uhura or Chekov or the Black Flag Admiral as political, because it no lomger really was when they watched.
But then they see a gay character on modern Trek and flip out. But others just see, another character. And in 20 years, maybe no one will even think it is or realize it was polotical.
That sort of thing.
Even on your futurama example this applies to some extent, though we do kimd of still have a garbage problem.
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Nice job making the first black admiral a red shirt. Guess they wain't that woke.
Statistically red shirts are less likely to die, there were more of them.
On TOS roughly 10% of red shirts died. Almost 20% of gold shirts died. Blue shirts were the least likely to die. Something like 5%.
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