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[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 66 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish the average people realized this instead of bickering about which of their country is superior.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I wish people would stop disparaging others just because they happen to live in a particular country.

Guess what, a single person can't control everything their country does. Get over it.

[–] SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Watching as over-personification continues to become the death of our species. We deserve an AI apocalypse in many ways at this point. maybe everyone will snap out of it before some theoretical grand tipping point towards certain “dystopian” outcomes will end up coming to pass, though probably not, especially at this rate which I have been seeing continue throughout this year, with regards to “consumer” and “professional” trends

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The game's called "Earthbound", right?

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

Tho, I don't believe this is a dialogue from the game.

[–] tflyghtz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah needs to match on both sides either "the americans and the chinese" or "americans and chinese" not this weird othering mix.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

To be fair, they’re not entirely equivalent. I wouldn’t bristle at all at being called “an American,” but I would never call someone “a Chinese.” In the plural form with a definite article, it doesn’t feel as bad, but I’d probably prefer to say “Chinese people,” whereas “American people” feels a little clunky, though it’s probably the best option if you want to keep both terms the same.

I don’t think this is necessarily a racist thing though, because I’d probably be fine saying “the French/ Congolese /Japanese*” and “Guatemalans/ Nigerians/ Tibetans/ Swedes.” Demonyms are definitely a weird area of language that feels biased when you see a direct comparison though.

*interestingly, I couldn’t think of a “new world” country where I would say “the+singular demonym,” but it does sound right for some tribal nations, like “the Hopi/Navajo.” I don’t think it’s uniform though, because “Pequots/Algonquins” sound much better than “the Pequot/Algonquin” to me and I’m not sure why.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Language is so weird tbh.

Like I'd feel comfortable saying I'm an American, but like "I'm a Chinese" sounds so like... gramatically wrong.

Like, idk if its the -ese suffix. Or ifs its because the term "Chinese" can be 中国人 (Chinese National),华人 (Chinese Person (as in ethnicity)),中文 (Chinese Language),中国的 (China's),华裔 (Ethnic Chinese),汉字 (Chinese Characters)... so it feels so like imprecise as a term, where as "I'm Chinese" is obviously refering to ethnicity (or nationality)

When someone say "the Chinese", like when they refer to China's success or failures, as in "the Chinese have managed to do XYZ", idk why, but I half expect the speaker to be subconciously racist for some reason... like I feel like that phrase is categorizing me into the CCP's decisions... like as if they're assuming I'm part of a monolith that doesn't have independent thoughts or something.

Maybe it's just me and I'm overthinking this weird grammer rules.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I would say “the Chinese invented many things in the last two millennia.” And “China is constantly posturing against Taiwan” to separate the people from their government.

“The Chinese” doesn’t have to be racist it can just include all the people of the region across all times. It can be a bit ignorant but doesn’t flag maliciousness

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

It's still generally Hopis and Navajos. Usually you see the "the" definite article added when it's referring to actual whole groups, example: "The Navajo (tribal govt or tribe as a whole) are fighting against X" as compared to "Navajos (people) are fighting against X"

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm going to start using "the ameri*an"

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

OK, so I'm one of the original SJWs

I'm old and have a bit of a reputation for getting in the face of the ignorant, which isn't always wise, but I'm a principled cunt

But there is a point where the little things don't fucking matter when the person clearly doesn't have any malicious intent, and only someone trying to be offended would have a problem

To whit, I was asking an indigenous friend whether they prefer "indigenous" or "aboriginal" when I'm speaking to them.

They said "the fact that you're even asking means that you're obviously not a part of the problem, so pull the stick out of your arse"

I suggest you do the same.

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[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

We aren't bringing back "Chinamen" if that's what you're asking.

...I did type it, tho just to see how it looked.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 4 weeks ago

Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.

[–] evthestrike@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

What do you mean by the second sentence 🤨

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

The Chinaman is not the issue dude.

And please Asian American is the preferred nomenclature

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

This is my gripe with tankies. One of the most salient points of 1984:

“It was now impossible for any human being to prove by documentary evidence that the war with Eurasia had ever happened.”

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”

All war is fake except the class war.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (12 children)

This post is misinformation.

Statistical Communiqué for 2024 on national economics by the National Bureau of Statistics of China:

"In 2024, the per capita disposable income nationwide was 41,314 yuan, an increase of 5.3 percent over that of the previous year or a real increase of 5.1 percent after deducting price factors"

Tell me how growing your disposable income by 5% a year is "not being able to afford anything"

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

isn't china struggling with deflation nowadays, though? they can afford things perfectly well, they just don't do it

(correct me if i'm wrong i know fuck all about economics)

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It‘s not going well for the average Chinese worker in recent years from what I‘ve heard. The pandemic and crumbling real estate market followed by countries diversifying their economies away from China (albeit slowly) and Trumps arbitrary trade war aren‘t good prospects for China. Xi Jinping‘s rhetoric in speeches went from „prosperity for all“ before the pandemic to „prosperity in moderation“ to essentially saying people shouldn‘t expect anything at all in his „eat bitter“ speech last year and that was before tariffs. Order books are empty and unemployment is rising just like it is in many places of the world right now to be honest. These are economically turbulent times and export economies are struggling when nobody can afford shit.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago

There was a YouTuber I like who went to view some of the new state of the art factories and they were operating at 1/6 capacity due to very low demand. The world economic terrorism trump is doing is making it tough out there for every country.

[–] mech@feddit.org 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I can only afford
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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Needs text alternative.


In terms of average purchasing power for the bottom half of their populations

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting graphs. China does have a lot of very poor provinces, even if high number out of official poverty levels. PPP income per capita is much higher in China than US and growing significantly.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

PPP national income per capita in USA > 3-fold that in China

where China beats USA is personal wealth of the less wealthy as mentioned before

economic inequality

  • income: fairly similar & high for both
  • wealth: high for both, though USA higher
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

Thank you for correction and other links. China with over 4x the population, has higher PPP GDP, but I misspoke about per capita GDP.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

China has many more socialized services and their income level is far less indicative of overall quality of life

It has honestly been a long time since I heard someone in the west suggest the chinese economy is struggling at all - i thought maybe something meaningful had happened in the last week or something that changed that picture

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

Let's get them, boys! Haha just kidding. Am I? Yeah. Haha.

Ha.

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