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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago

I heard that it was another Muslim who tried to tackle one of the parallel killers, to provide added context.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bondi-mass-shooting-hannukah-gunmen-hero-9.7015882

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

What's the meaning of the lit vs onlit candles? Is it just the third day of Honnukeh or is it some kind of recognition of the victims?

[–] Cornflake@pawb.social 3 points 8 hours ago

The two lit on the right side indicate rhe second night of Chanukah. The middle one is actually lit first and then used to light the other candles.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I believe it's the days of Hanukkah but time zones routinely confound me!

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Yes that's tragic, and this wouldn't have happened if the Israeli government hadn't pissed off everyone including antisemitic homicidal folk who can't tell the difference between a Jew and a Zionist Israeli. The evil folk in power of Israel and the IDF played a part in the murders of these people.

The memorial is beautiful.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It is, and I believe absolutely intentional that they chose to honour Jewish victims by a different yet completely recognizable and meaningful symbol. It makes sense given that it was the beginning of Hannukah but I really think this was a deliberate and important choice.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I also like the detail that there are two candles lit as it is the second night of Khanuka

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

folk who can't tell the difference between a Jew and a Zionist Israeli.

That's the design. The Israeli government has been trying to blur the line between the two since the Gaza genocide began. They don't want the average person to be able to make the distinction between the teo. The zionists want to hide behind general "anti-Semitism" phrasing.

The real world result is that because the distinction is hard to make, every Jew is now a target. And they'll point to that to justify the general anti-Semitism claim as well. Creating a loop that enforces their own artificially created narrative.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I like how they used a menorah instead of a star of david

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Most likely that decision was made because it was a Hanukah event.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, were the shooters supposedly acting against Jews in defense of Palestinians?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it was a Jewish festival. It might not be specific to the Palestinian/Gaza genocide... But it's definitely related.

"It would appear that this was motivated by Islamic State ideology," Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said of the shooting attack at Bondi Beach on Sunday.
Albanese continues: "The ideology that has been around for more than a decade that led to this ideology of hate, and in this case, a preparedness to engage in mass murder.

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Well said on the PM's part, I think the same. Here in England, after the Palestinian militia indiscriminately assaulted Israeli folk on Oct 7th, people were radicalised against those who share the faith of the Palestinians.

Britain is known for having a high level of Islamophobic folk as it is. Anyone known to be Muslim (convenience store owners come to mind) who tried to show solidarity for the Palestinians murdered were assaulted, store windows smashed, and companies warned employees not to show support in any way. A conflict happening thousands of miles away resulted in violence towards those who showed sympathy for Palestine and the suppression of such is enforced by state law still.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Britain also has a fairly unique relation to the area, having massive influence on the original defined borders, resulting in nearly constantly contested borders. In classic British Empire fashion, ignored realities of the region like local ethnic and religious politics, nomadic tribe lifestyles, etc.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

the current Israeli state is the main distributor of anti-Semitic propaganda.

they want people to conflate jews with zionism. they want people to hate jews. they want diaspora jews to be prosecuted so they move and help habitate the west bank.

at least they haven't done false flag terror attacks anymore like they did in Iraq (that we know of).

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The Israelis responsible for massacring Palestinians are not the same as all Jewish folk.. They may share a God but that is all. You cannot blame an entire demographic for an extremist group's actions, that starts as bigotry and becomes fascism.