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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf -5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It surprised me when I went keto-carn (zero fiber diet), my stools moved easier, than when I was on a high fiber diet.

Butyrate? Is that why it's called butyrate? Manages the rate it comes out of your butt?

I'll bet something near 95% of Americans don't get enough butyrate in their guts, be it from butter or microbes eating fiber.

Butter...? Is that why it's called butter?

Maybe high fiber dose would work good, if the gut's in a healed state, not scarred from extra spiky gluten and lectins and phytates and oxylates and salicylates etc, indigestible proteins, coarse insoluble roughage fibers, not to mention the glyphosate and other herbicides and pesticides and fungicides, and franken-sugars and dyes and preservatives and rancid pufa imbalanced oils and chemical processing residues etc etc etc.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Food companies " yeah we know you fuckers don't get enough fiber, but processing food removes it. So even though yall get like twice the protein ya need HOW ABOUT SOME MORE PROTEIN!!!!!"

Americans "yeah I guess that'll do." fart noises

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

They took it out so they could sell it to us later as a supplement.

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[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] ABasilPlant@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I haven't seen anyone here mention Psyllium husk. I bought 450 capsules on Amazon (ew I know) and it's been a game changer for me. Seriously. I take two a day and that's been enough for me to be comfortable throughout the day, especially while traveling.

https://www.amazon.de/Organic-psyllium-capsules-serving-cultivation/dp/B0D3F62D9M

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, but you really should be getting it through your normal daily food intake. If you need to take pills for it then it is a sign that your diet is lacking.

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get powder from Costco. They have Kirky brand that is not only about half the price of Metanucil, but the dosage is also about a third, so in reality you're getting like 4-6 times as much, depending on your definition of "rounded." Kirky is also sugar free, using stevia I think, although I'm sitting in a car right now so this is all from memory, and my memory ain't the best.

[–] PoliteDudeInTheMood@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I had the pills, but I take so many pills I usually forget. Switched to the gummies and they were much easier l don't buy the metamucil ones, they taste great but are way overpriced. One day I woke up in the middle of the night and was peckish, and had a bunch. Ohhhh boy did I pay for that mistake.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (28 children)

Beans. I know on Lemmy beans are memes, but beans are how to get enough fiber each day. 2 cups of cooked beans has the total fiber you need for a day, and it's hard to get there without beans.

It takes about 3 -5 cups of cooked veggies to get the fiber that is in one cup of beans. So 1 cup of cooked beans and some greens with supper, a big salad for lunch and oatmeal with raspberries and yogurt for breakfast would get you there. And should leave room calorie wise for some meat and bread or rice or pasta.

My kids make fun of me for making beans for so many meals but delicious, cheap, healthy, they are an ideal food.

Ground flax seed is also a great source of fiber. I put some in my yogurt every morning.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How tf do you people eat beans so often? The gas tears my intestines apart.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess just by eating them a lot my body adjusted?

Though I think also, you know how different bodies have different strengths and weaknesses - digestion seems to be my body's strength, the one place I don't usually have issues. Like no trouble eating meat after 20 years of vegetarian food, even. It doesn't care. It's weaknesses lie elsewhere.

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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 65 points 2 days ago (8 children)

SO fucking true. I feel like it's actually impossible to even find foods with enough fiber in them in the first place. I might only get 5% of my daily fiber from a full meal, but at least my Snickers bar has 20g of protein in it for some reason.

We always somehow manage to focus on the wrong things.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Fiber is too hard to explain.

My teen is an athlete and very much into muscle building. He tracks macros, eats more calories than the rest of us (and still lost weight as a freshman with unlimited meal plan), and always looks for more sources of lean protein or omega 3’s.

But when I try to explain the importance of fiber, “I don’t get constipated and don’t need to shit more so why should I care?” Maybe it’s my problem not knowing how to reply to that in a way that communicates the importance

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He needs to understand that eating fiber is a workout for the gut. It makes the gut strong, so that it can absorb more nutrients from the meat he eats later. He may be shitting fine, in fact he may be shitting so well that he's not absorbing the full nutrition from his food. Tell him not to be lazy, don't skip gut day.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

I like that, “don’t skip gut day”

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Fiber feeds your gut bacteria, making your gut health better, making your overall health better. It helps to regulate and slightly inhibit absorption of carbs ensuring a longer lasting feeling of fullness. In nature, carbs and fiber always come packaged together in commensurate amounts... for example potatoes have about 20% carbs and a skin (the fiber) that is thin enough to be edible while sugar cane has so much carbs (about 70%) that the included fiber makes it like a stick.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Whole grains, fruits (I shouldn't have to say it, but not the juice, and if you do drink juice have pulp), beans and lentils, and leafy greens. These are all things Americans don't eat enough of for some reason.

Bean tacos are amazing. Black bean burgers are one of the few vegetarian alternatives that havr gained popularity among meat eaters, and for good reason. Have a spinach salad or snack on kale chips. It's hard to find something more nutritious than lentils though they're hard to cook in a particularly appetizing way. Cabbage and other brassicae can be a challenge but when cooked well is amazing. Whole grain bread takes some getting used to but is excellent once you do.

And if all else fails, pscilium husk fiber supplements.

The problem with fiber in the American diet is that it's satiating and noticeable in ultra processed foods. It's most appetizing in it's natural sources, and the American diet really isn't conducive to cooking with whole plant products.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 64 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Are .gov sources still legitimate? Are we sure this wasn't written by rfk's brain worm?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is nearly a decade old and pretty well documented reference-wise, so I trust it. I definitely understand the healthy skepticism.

Tangentially related, I’ve been buying “carb balance” tortillas instead of regular ones for a while now. They’re not quite as gummy (maybe not the right word but it’s what I can come up with right now) but still pretty damn good and they’re packed with fiber. It’s been a real easy way to work more fiber into my diet. Eating more veggies is still the best source of fiber though, from what I can tell.

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[–] mystrawberrymind@piefed.ca 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can tell when you go out to eat at lots of cheaper places. Order a plate with barely any veggies on it. No, an iceberg lettuce with a fatty dressing on it does not count!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s sad that my first reaction was “are we sure we’re posting “scientific” results from the us govt?”, and my second reaction was was “phew, 15 years old so it should be true”

But it is old data and I’d like to know if anything has changed.

  • Maybe there’s trends: I eat more vegetables than I did back then although still nowhere near enough.
  • Marketing has generated a lot more fiber claims for things like breads and cereals. Is that real? Enough to make a difference?

So for me personally I eat more veggies although still not enough and the bread and cereal I eat talks a lot about fiber. Are there any such trends and are they enough to make any difference?

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[–] EfficientEffigy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Not until Kelloggs finally releases Flaming Hot Bran Flakes ^(tm) ^

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