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A New Report Reveals the Real Reason Democrats Lost in 2024 (newrepublic.com)

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"It wasn’t because Biden voters shifted to Trump—but because so many of them stayed home."

We must not repeat this same mistake again. Remember to always vote in every election and consider volunteering to knock on doors. It can make a difference. There are elections that are decided with just a small number of votes.

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[–] int_not_found@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I just skimmend the article and the accompanying report. But the analysis of what happened is contrary to my understanding. As far as I'm aware voter turnout in swing states (aka the ones that are actually important) was actually higher in 2024 compared to the few last election cycles.

Compared to Clinton and Biden, Harris was able to draw from the not-voting pool in states, where it mattered. Just Trump did it better.

The conclusion, that following the populist narrative of your enemy instead of drafting your own looses you votes, may be right, but I think the analysis, how they got to that conclusion is not what actually happened.

Not a US citizen or particularly versed with US politics, so I would be happy to hear something contrary.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I posted a longer reply below about some of the exit polling and the pictures that kind of info paints. And yes, it's in contradiction to this article.

Objectively, the last several federal elections had the highest turnout of voters in US history, including highest percentages of youth voters. There was a LOT more wrong than "Dem voters stayed home." That's the same tired BS they've been shoving down our throat for decades.

I immediately distrust any article or "study" published by a group who also claim to have the strategy to "fix" it and have an investment plan for "getting voters to the polls." This smells a lot like attempt #4,497,349 to grab people's money and run.

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[–] butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 19 points 3 days ago (14 children)

THEN STOP FUCKING RUNNING CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS WITHOUT MEANINGFUL PRIMARIES

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“It wasn’t because Biden voters shifted to Trump—but because so many of them stayed home.”

I'm sorry but that is bullshit. That's like saying that the protestor died because the gun released a bullet, completely forgetting that the police aimed at them in the first place.

Voters stayed home because they felt uninspired by whatever democratic candidates tried to represent. The thing is, i'm in europe and i do follow the news, but i barely ever heard any specific plans from Kamala. i never got the "oh wow that's a good idea" thought, because there was poor communication, no exposure, etc. It's all a bubble. If you're inside it, it seems like there's a lot of communication. But that communication doesn't leave the bubble because it doesn't speak the other's language. It refuses to communicate with people who are not already on the same page. That's why a lot of commenters are gonna reply to my comment, saying "no, actually, Kamala's messaging was great". Because they experienced it like that, because they actively seeked out the communication, and found it. But to the typical voter, who's not specially politically involved, and not specifically seeking out the communication, they don't get exposed to it.

On top of that what i'm strongly considering is that our political stances need to recognize that people really just want to live, both now and in the future. They want to have the economical perspective that they can buy nice stuff, and that the world is somehow gonna develop into a better tomorrow. A political party is gonna win exactly if it can provide these two to the people. That's what we need.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I really agree that communication is where the American "left" is way behind. Both in terms of individual campaigns and as a whole.

The American "right" now has endless well-funded platforms to push messages and narratives. Podcasts, streamers, YouTube channels, news networks, social media accounts, etc. They also embrace AI to increase exponentially the amount of content they can shovel out. And they understand you need to use apolitical or quasi political interests as an entry point.

There are examples on the left of all of these, but not at the same scale and with the same financial backing.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If the next Dem presidential candidate would refrain from getting buddy buddy with Republicans it would be a lot easier to put in the effort to overcome voter suppression.

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[–] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If you want me to vote, then you need to stop nominating corporate puppets.

I've showed up at every primary, for example.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I guarantee you that for whatever district or race if you compare the Democrat and the Republican running in that race you'll find that the Democrat is less corporate and cares more about the people than the Republican in that race does. Voting for the Democrat even the one who wasn't your first choice in the primary brings you closer to where you want to be and helps shift the Overton window. Primaries typically happen every election cycle and eventually by electing enough Democrats flipping every seat you can will either result in the Democrat you believe is too corporate to shift their beliefs or will result in their ouster with someone who is less corporate.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

if you compare the Democrat and the Republican running in that race you'll find

This is the fucking problem, right here.

People dont make """"rational"""" choices when they're driven toward frustration and desparation, and democrats marketing themselves as 'not republicans' in lieu of offering any significant change is a massive source of that desparation.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I wouldn’t have thought that voting against fascism would have been something arms needed to be twisted over. But what do I know?

Everyone loves a good grassroots movement to outrage one another over!

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

We've known since the day after election day something like 33 million fewer people voted, though.

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe have a fucking primary and people won't stay home.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Or, you know, vote, because fucking LUCIFER is on the ballot.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can appreciate not wanting Lucifer to win but the average person doesn't get motivated by lesser of the two evils, its not enough. The other guy has to make them want to get off their ass. Obama made people want to get out and vote. Trump did too, as much as I don't like to admit it.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

the average person doesn’t get motivated by lesser of the two evils

A huge number of choices in life are just that. So suck it up, Buttercup.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

This person isn't saying it's not enough for them personally, they're saying it's clearly, obviously, per all evidence, not enough for MANY people - objectively enough to turn an election. So if you want better leaders you must motivate voters by giving them something to vote for. Lesser of two fascists pisses me off but I'll hold my nose and vote. However, I also recognize this is a piss poor strategy since so many will not.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Your attitude isn't very inspirational.

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[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And that just means we Americans get what we deserve.

It's a civic duty. The only people to blame are ourselves.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that puts enough blame on the assholes with money who are taking advantage of the system and intentionally tipping the scales

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And one way they tip the scales is by pusing the message that, if the Democratic Partty candidate is less than perfect, don't vote. And meanwhile, corrupt, bloodthirsty criminals on the R side get a free pass. And the purists are too stupid to see that.

And I say this in full awareness of the DNC's role in gutting the effectiveness of the Democratic Party as an agent of change.

Vote the lesser evil if that's all there is. But also organize and drive corporate shills out of the party leadership.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (5 children)

These comments clearly show that people are completely fine to repeat the same mistakes that opened the door for a fascist to take up the throne.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just report them as Russian bots cuz that’s what they are. They got away with this on Reddit. Let’s not let this stand on lemmy.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Naaah. They’re coddled here. Political correctness has gotten mods/admins so scared of making a mistake that they even protect a person using the well-known “attack helicopter” bullshit to antagonize the trans community.

I’ve been banned for calling this person out here.

Was also banned from a bunch of communities I don’t even post in for “bad jacketing” because I called out a well known troll that has tons of sock puppets.

Mods/admins are too chickenshit to make any big splashes here. Even when given proof.

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kamala's not Good Enough

So you get Trump

"With every mistake We must surely Be learning "
-George Harrison

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[–] tomatolung@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Way to Win pointed to three main problems that cost Democrats last year: Voters were upset not just about rising prices but about longer-term economic trends, and wanted change; Republicans and the far right have a built-in media advantage, thanks to years of investments, which made it harder for Democrats to break through; and movements on the left around issues like Gaza, racial and economic justice, and immigration weren’t aligned with the party.

Yea... Close...Not quite though. Basically, YOU HAVE TON FUCKING ACT YOU DIP SHITS! Do real things people can fucking believe in.

As it stand I still want both sides out of all the offices. When you actually represent me and the voters.... Not some corporate lobby group, PAC, or persons with more money than sense but "We The People", then I might vote for you.

Mamdani is a good start... If he follows through.

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 4 days ago

We kinda knew that anyways. Those people thought "ahhh, there couldn't possibly be that enough people to vote Trump again" and didn't vote until the fact broke out to them on election day.

And it's going to be an even harder pitch for Democrats if they keep pussy-footing the way that they have lately.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Trump won because he ran unopposed.

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