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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Many participants had issues such as homelessness, untreated mental health disorders, substance use, relationship crises, disengagement from health services and conflicts with government institutions.

Society is unwilling to help these men in desperate need of help until it is proven that it will help women first

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

What a weird thing to take away from the article.

Certainly you can think of at least a few organizations tackling homelessness, untreated mental health disorders, substance use, relationship crises, disengagement from health services and conflicts with government institutions.

Seriously it's a single study into another topic. That's just how science works. I'll never understand when people get mad that a study exists and that it is somehow unable to cover every possibility of a complex topic in a single study.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not mad the study exists. It's a useful finding. It's the framing of the article I object to. It could just as easily be framed that mental health treatment for men at risk or incarceration improves outcomes and is more cost effective.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At risk of incarceration for what

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Drugs, minor theft, any of the various excuses police use to lock up the homeless and those having a mental health crisis. Lots of options.

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[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a whole suite of issues we blame the victim for; there are a good number of women in these buckets too. I suspect the male focus here has more to do with domestic violence.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm reading the study to find the part where it says that these participants didn't have any social or societal support to attempt to deal with their other problems.

Oh right - sorry I see now that you were just vocalising the chip on your shoulder.

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[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

The article: “it appears that domestic violence has roots in the mental health of men, as this antidepressant appears to reduce incidents of DV in some cases. A more comprehensive mental health care system would improve these results.”

The Chuds in the comments who didn’t read the article: “SO NOW THEY WANT TO DRUG ALL MEN TO PROTECT WOMEN! WHAT ABOUT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE MENTAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM!? MEN ARE THE VICTIMS IN THIS SCENARIO!”

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That's excellent news. The random tiktok videos inserted into the article are still making me lose my cool, though.

[–] ZERONOVABLOSSOM@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

That’s cool, I never really deeply considered how important impulse control is in emotional regulation.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 10 points 1 month ago

If they put fluoride in drinking water, they can put this in protein shakes and those shower gels that come in the angular gunmetal-coloured containers

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I'm not going to pretend this is an emotionally easy or comfortable approach. There's a desire to protect the victims and write off the perpetrators on one hand and on the other, there's the men who feel attacked by the idea that abusive and violent men are having mental health issues. But I believe in evidence based solutions. If this works, and it doesn't violate fundamental rights (which it doesn't), then it's a path I want pursued.

And it makes a lot of sense to me. Every abuser I've had has had mental health issues. My father couldn't fully control big emotions in the moment, and so when he didn't have the capacity to step away, such as a car ride or a hotel room, he scared the shit out of us.

I would love a pilot program that forces domestic abusers into mental health treatment similar to addicts are sometimes put into sobriety programs.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And impotence I'm sure. So, a two-fer

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This study suggests that reduced sex drive is the most common side effect, but it impacts about 1/10. I can find no evidence that it is permanent (though see comments below!); stopping the drug should return most folks to normal.

Compare this treatment to incarceration: would you prefer to be less horny and free, or in jail? See also the patient reports in the article, talking about finally having some control in their lives.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

You can be both horny and impotent at the same time. I'd still prefer to be free, of course.

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I can find no evidence that it is permanent; stopping the drug should return most folks to normal.

Most, but not all: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12991-023-00447-0

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[–] astutemural@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Study: "Treating depressed men who commit domestic violence can reduce the amount of domestic violence that occurs."

Internet scum: "WHAT ABOUT THE MEN?!?!? THOSE FEMINAZIS ARE TRYING TO DRUG US!!!!"

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