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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Many participants had issues such as homelessness, untreated mental health disorders, substance use, relationship crises, disengagement from health services and conflicts with government institutions.

Society is unwilling to help these men in desperate need of help until it is proven that it will help women first

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What a weird thing to take away from the article.

Certainly you can think of at least a few organizations tackling homelessness, untreated mental health disorders, substance use, relationship crises, disengagement from health services and conflicts with government institutions.

Seriously it's a single study into another topic. That's just how science works. I'll never understand when people get mad that a study exists and that it is somehow unable to cover every possibility of a complex topic in a single study.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not mad the study exists. It's a useful finding. It's the framing of the article I object to. It could just as easily be framed that mental health treatment for men at risk or incarceration improves outcomes and is more cost effective.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At risk of incarceration for what

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Drugs, minor theft, any of the various excuses police use to lock up the homeless and those having a mental health crisis. Lots of options.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why did you bring homelessness and mental health crises into this? This article has nothing to do with either

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I literally posted a quote from the article where it talks about homelessness and untreated mental health.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -2 points 1 month ago

You sound more upset about it than he or she does. They’re just making a comment that has some truth to it in the context of broader men’s issues.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a whole suite of issues we blame the victim for; there are a good number of women in these buckets too. I suspect the male focus here has more to do with domestic violence.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm reading the study to find the part where it says that these participants didn't have any social or societal support to attempt to deal with their other problems.

Oh right - sorry I see now that you were just vocalising the chip on your shoulder.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

The homeless and those with untreated mental health disorders don't have social or societal support, or they wouldn't be homeless and untreated.