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[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I desperately wanted to get a degree in mechanical engineering so I could go to work for an arms company (like Heckler & Kock, FN Herstal, etc.). Never happened, got an art degree instead. Then I met a guy that owns a very small firearms company, and, well, yeesh. It's a brutally hard business. He makes a good product, he has good morals and ethics, but the market is so saturated that anyone smaller than the largest arms companies are hemorrhaging money. Glad I didn't try to live my dream now.

I may not like what governments do with arms, but good goddamn, the arms themselves are neat.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

“He has good morals and ethics”

How could he possibly if he has devoted his life to creating weapons? What’s his response if and when his guns are used for violence, be it murder, suicide, armed robbery, etc? Even if he is “small time” for “enthusiasts” of the “sport” it is only a matter of time until this occurs. How does he reconcile this? That it’s not the guns fault? Just the glamorization of them, the obscene amount of them, the fact that they are readily available, pushing it onto “mental health”, or some other scapegoat that allows him to escape accountability for facilitating mortal violence.

I hope your friend goes out business and his entire industry collapses.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

His response, as is mine, is that what people use his guns for simply isn't his business. If people used Stanley hammers to beat people to death, would it mean that Stanley was an immoral company? Or would it mean that people used the product in an unlawful and immoral way?

I happen to very, very strongly believe in 2A, and I think that the US is in the shitstorm it is currently in in no small part because liberals--but not leftists--have been working their asses off to disarm themselves. And I will note that the person in question has consistently employed furries--he loves their work ethic--and strongly supports the rights of LGBTQ+ people to arm themselves.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hammers are tools used to build things that someone can decide to use as a weapon. Firearms, specifically handguns and semi automatic AR-style long guns, are literally designed for the sole purpose of ending a human life. Not at all a valid comparison.

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[–] rami@ani.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

I find that there's a lot of overlap between people who like engines, clocks, and guns. They're all machines with a concrete goal, harnessing an incredible force in a very controlled way, through precise, complex mechanisms and allow near complete freedom on how exactly you achieve that goal. There's a beauty to it that's hard to find anywhere else.

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I offered to leave my senior design group and find another when they were going to build a system for the military as their project. They were nice enough to change it to an automated feeder.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The feeder will be used to force feed prisoners.

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

think it's hot today?

No

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's almost winter, I thinks it's freaking cold today.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly the job security in weapon manufacturer is pretty good. Least it was when I worked in one 15 years back. Pay was shite though.

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like something an architect would say...

Shame

Shame

Shame

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Hey!  Thanks bro. I'll be nice and cool by my pond. Im Canadian and I was working for a US defence contractor. I was in their industrial sector and worked in Europe, never touched a defence product and wouldn't be allowed to. But every time the quarterly numbers came out and number went up. I couldn't help but feel responsible for steering them profits. 

I'm unemployed and the happiest I've ever been

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's why I design targets.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I just wanted to build scientific instruments on satellites. Sucks when the company you worked at for 18 years gets sold to an arms dealer.

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