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I miss traditional message boards. No karma, no sorting algorithms, you just get new topics on top and replies are sorted oldest to newest.

You can have forum threads that go on for decades, but Lemmy's default sorting system quickly sweeps older content away. I'm aware you can mimic the forum format by selecting the "chat" option in a thread and sorting by old, and you can sort posts by "latest comment" which replicates the old-school forum experience pretty well, but nobody does it that way, so the community behaves in the manner facilitated by the default sorting algorithm that prioritizes new content over old but still relevant content.

I also notice that I don't pay attention to usernames on Lemmy (or Reddit back when I was on it). They're just disembodied thoughts floating through the ether. On message boards, I get to know specific users, their personalities and preferences and ups and downs. I notice when certain users don't post for a while and miss them if they're gone for too long.

EDIT: given this is my most upvoted post on here to date I'd say the answer is yes.

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[–] Lee@retrolemmy.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I like forums, but maybe I'm part of the problem. I've read a forum obsessively for years without registering an account. Even when I have an account, I rarely post/comment. I've been reading Lemmy almost daily for over a year before registering an account and don't reply much even with an account. Decentralization starts with individuals, so I'm going to try to add signal to the fediverse.

I generally prefer the traditional flat forum UI with oldest first, but that's mostly a client issue. The problem though is if others are using a different UI the conversation may flow differently (think threaded vs flat forums).

RE karma, a lot of forums show post counts and like counts next to their forum profile, which is often included in every reply, so in some ways, the likes (karma) was a little more in your face. I think there was less astro turfing due to scope of benefit. What I mean is that while traditional forums were decentralized, so was the account and its reputation, so karma (like/post count) farming was isolated to that specific forum/community and if you were astro turfing, you'd get banned and lose that and could not transsfer that to other forums. Services like reddit effectively make this transferrable between forums. I'm concerned about how this will play out as decentralized platforms grow. It could be worse than reddit. I've been trying to come up with ways to handle this, but I can find flaws in every idea I've had so far.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem though is if others are using a different UI the conversation may flow differently

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. You CAN recreate the message board experience on Lemmy pretty faithfully by sorting posts by latest comment (like the bumping system of forums) and setting comments to "chat" which flattens the comment tree, and sorting oldest to newest, but nobody does that so the community doesn't develop around it.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago

I always hated the UX of forums. It was incredibly difficult to follow long threads with loads of pages. Personally I prefer the format we have here on Lemmy where comments are nested off the main post.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to mod for a forum. I would not do that again.

Also, isn't this interface just forum+?

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do we have a list of not death forums in 2025, I have been eyeing the following (Spanish forums) and even logged in again!

Emudesc.com Elotrolado.net Forosdz.club

As I only frequented forums as a kid and I didn't know the English language back then, Spanish forums is the only sweet memory that I have, but now I can be part of English forums too, the sad part is they are no longer mainstream 😅

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unrelated but does anyone know how to fix my gpu drivers?

Never responds again

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I fixed it!

never responds again, especially if it's a issue no one know the answer for

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I also notice that I don't pay attention to usernames on Lemmy

I'm not sure if this is a Lemmy-wide thing or if it's just because I use the Connect app, but I can add User Notes that function as a little tag next to people's usernames. Since I started doing that I've noticed just how small Lemmy is, or at least how few people actually are posting content.

Most of my notes are just to let me know not to bother getting into arguments with them on stuff. Conservative trolls, tankies, AI slop enthusiasts,, people who steal content from others, etc. But occasionally I'll mark someone down as a notable quality poster.

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[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bodybuilding forums led to a notorious debate on the number of days in a week. I feel like a reddit format would water down the debate by not presenting replies as they are posted in real time.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really want the full story

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[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They still exist, they're just kind of rare. There's even federated forums like NodeBB. I actively read stuff on SpaceBattles, Sufficient Velocity, etc. It's admittedly difficult to find something with absolutely no like/karma system, but for instance the hellhole known as GameFAQs still exists.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google deprioritized smaller forums and it sort of killed them.

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember back in 2007,2008 etc I had an app on my phone that had tons of forums on it. I spent years on that app reading, learning, screen shorting, so much information. It was my favorite app. Few years later I get a new phone and can’t find that app anymore. There was a woodworking forum, electricians forum, welding forum, weed forum, and so many others. All in one single app.

Couldn’t find any of the forums. Depressing.

[–] gingerman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm probably wrong, but the first app that comes to mind is Tapatalk

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Upvote/Downvote/likes is the cancer that ruined it all. Before that one actually had to speak in support or against any given ideas. Now people can assume anything is true/false based on an arbitrary engagement number.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 18 points 2 days ago

That lead to a lot more back and forth arguments as people had to get in the last word or people chiming in with agreements because that was the only way to see if multiple people agreed.

I like forums for informational discussions that don't have a ton of back and forth. Forums are better for hobbies in my experience.

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That forum structure worked for nice forums with like a hundred active users, it doesn't work when it's tens of thousands of people. I mean I miss old time BBS forums, for what it's worth, but the "reddit style" system is much better in my opinion.

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not particularly.

There was so much to deal with back then. So many different rule sets to follow, so many differences in each community, so many sign-up and on-boarding processes for posting or contributing each.

I miss the internet itself from that time period, and I realize that there is a certain community feel that is missing due to how congregated the current internet is, but I still don't really miss forums specifically all that much.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I miss the individuality of the old internet. Websites, communities, and users being themselves.

ShitNugget9000 on one forum might be SirReginald79 on another.

Policies set for the community, not the leaseholder.

The internet controlled by a hegemony sucks.

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[–] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I went back to blacksmithforums.com just now, to my surprise, they changed their software. Now I can't find all the posts that I saved about historical researches...

There are still quite many game developers' forums, but what bothers me a little bit is that sometimes the long living ones periodically lost their past.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There are still quite many game developers’ forums, but what bothers me a little bit is that sometimes the long living ones periodically lost their past.

That's an unfortunate consequence of being a smaller community with fewer hosting resources. The older a forum is, the bigger the backend database hosting all those posts, and the more it will chug running queries.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago

I miss the community. I was a member of a community forum for about 18 years. You knew everyone and it was generally nice.

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, for one particular reason: I've always favored longer, slower posting - structured responses to earlier posts with multiple paragraphs to propose a point, explain, and support it. Including the ability to quote / link back to multiple different posts in a thread if needed. The... for lack of a better way to put it, "Reddit-esque" style of branched comments to a post (which includes Lemmy) is nice because it allows multiple parallel discussions rather than one dominating one, but it also seems to discourage longer, more in-depth responses. It also means that interesting ongoing discussions which I'd love to get into can get buried down later in the comments.

Like OP, I recognize that there's nothing actually stopping me from doing this on Lemmy. There's chat and sort-by-new, and of course I can link as many other comments as I want. But the overwhelming trend is towards shorter, snappier answers before you move on to the next comment chain or post; discussions rarely last more than a few hours, whereas forum threads used to be able to keep them going for days.

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