Ask Lemmy

There isn't a way to use AI in good faith.

Either you are ignorant of the tech and its negative effects, or you arent.

In a way aren't you asking "how can I be an AI vegan, without sounding like an AI vegan"?

It's OK to be an AI vegan if that's what you want. :)

Maybe part of the answer is to not be so strictly against it. AI is starting to be used in a variety of tools and not all your criticisms are valid for all of them. Being able to see where it is useful and maybe you even find it desirable helps explain that you’re not against the technology per se.

For example Zoom has an ai tool that can generate meeting summaries. It’s pretty accurate with discussions although sometimes gets confused about who said what. That ai likely used much less power, might not have been trained on copyrighted content

You'd rather make your own painting than fill in a coloring book?

"There are emerging studies about AI induced psychosis[1], and there is a possibility to go psychotic even if one doesn't have pre-conditions to become one. I would like to be cautious with the danger, like with cigaretes or Thalidomide. You never know how it might be dangerous."

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.19218

and also alarming enough for them to take action.

Is this really an intent to explain in good faith? Sounds like you're trying to manipulate their opinion and actions rather than simply explaining yourself.

If someone was to tell me that they simply don't want to use generative AI, that they prefer to do writing or drawing by hand and don't want suggestions about how to use various AI tools for it, then I just shrug and say "okay, suit yourself."

The most reasonable explanation I’ve heard/read is that generative AI is based on stealing content from human creators. Just don’t use the word “slop” and you’ll be good.

just say that you don't want to use it. why are you trying to figure out good reasons that somebody else came up with to not use something you have to elect to use in the first place? just say "I don't want to use genAI". you don't need to explain yourself any further than that.

What is your viewpoint?
Mine, for example, is that not only I don't need it at all but it doesn't offer anything of value to me so I can't think of any use for it.

One Thing to note: if you're strictly against it then you are on fact an AI vegan.

And that's okay!

Just like veganism you need to be clear though to us to help you answer that question:

1. what IS your reason? "At all" as absolute is not objectively feasible for all situations no matter your logic (stealing --> use an open model like apertus; energy --> link it to your solar panels, unreliable --> wrong use case, etc etc)

2. why do you want to convince others?

The issue is: you need to be honest to yourself AND to us to have a proper exchange.

"It doesn't feel right and I want to limit it's spread" is a way better answer then some stuff that sounds right but that are not grounded in your personal reality.

I am telling people to refrain from wasting my time with parrotted training data and that there is no "I" in LLMs. And that using them harms the brain and the corporations behind are evil to the core. But yeah, mostly I give up beyond "please don't bother me with this"