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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said the world can make progress on a range of issues without the US, and that consensus reached at a Group of 20 (G-20) leaders’ meeting in Johannesburg

At the press conference, he detailed his attempts to strengthen ties with nations ranging from South Africa to India and China.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 17 points 12 hours ago
[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago

Finally! Yes!

Now get everyone else on board please! The sooner the US gets decoupled the sooner the rest of us can get back some kind of quality of life.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Okay then, tackle climate change.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The US has dodged its way out of every binding international treaty, including climate ones.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 18 points 13 hours ago

That's the most important one. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to compel compliance from major economies.

Our best chance is what Carney is doing, move on without them in as many domains as possible and wait for the US to collapse or reform, then invite them to the big kids table again.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I note the large investiment from Saudi Arabia going towards Canada mentioned in the article; I'm not sure stopping fossil fuels is quite what he has in mind ='(

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago

Remember, the United States is the largest oil producer in the world. Canada is number 4 right behind Russia.

We are not quite a Petro state but we are pretty close.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 58 points 17 hours ago

Do it. There is nothing particularly special about the voices here. They could do well with getting taken down a few pegs.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Carney is an Obama-esque a-hole who says really nice things but, in fact, is going to drive many more Canadians into poverty. (As one would expect from an international banker-turned-politician.)

But he's not wrong, and what sucks is Americans really don't know how trade deals work, so in a year-ish when all the post-tariff trade deals go in, and the supply chain has rerouted itself around the US, we're all going to be poorer for it except for the handful of billionaires who profited handsomely off the economic chaos.