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COP30 approves the key deal in this year's talks, the Global Mutirão - although it does not promise a path on fossil fuel cuts

Fights over fossil fuels and money appear to have deadlocked the climate talks - with some countries saying the deal "falls far short" of addressing crucial challenges

The final meeting of COP30 has now been temporarily suspended after Colombia's fiery intervention - we'll keep bringing you updates as they land

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 6 hours ago

It's just a show. They pretend they are trying to address the problem for couple of days every year and that's it. They should stop fucking around and just start geoengineering. The excuse was always that if we start considering it seriously everyone will stop trying to limit emissions. Well, then don't really try anyway. Stop pretending and just start experimenting with the climate on a global scale. What could go wrong?

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It is noteworthy that a group of only 24 countries - formed at this COP 30 - will meet next April for a conference co-hosted by Colombia and the Netherlands to work on plans for a complete fossil fuel phase-out. Other participating countries include Australia, Austria, Belgium, Cambodia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Jamaica, Kenya, Luxembourg, Marshall Islands, Mexico, Micronesia, Nepal, Panama, Spain, Slovenia, Vanuatu and Tuvalu.

It is these countries that are leading the way in the fight for a better climate.

The two largest economies and historical emitters, the US and China, were as conspicuous in their lack of impact during the COP30 as they were before. U.S. President Donald Trump declined to send representatives as the Washington exits from global climate accords.

And China has once again proven to focus more on its own interests in trade rather than stepping into a stronger leadership role in fighting climate change while it's energy consumption continues to rise at a staggering rate. The country accounts for one third of the of the world's total energy consumption, compared to a fifth 15 years ago, and is responsible for 90% of the increase in these emissions since 2015. China is portraying itself as a leader in climate policy, but when it's leader Xi Jinping announced a decrease of over 7% by 2035 a few weeks ago, he carefully avoided specifying a baseline.

Researchers think that China’s NDC (Nationally Determined Contribution) falls short to limit global warming to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels, and striving to stay below 1.5 °C. As Lauri Myllyvirta, an analyst who has tracked China’s emissions trends for more than a decade, said in Nature, “Anything less than 20% is definitely not aligned with 2 degrees. Similarly, anything less than 30% is definitely not aligned with 1.5 degrees."

Myllyvirta also says that China's announced emissions cuts — as 7–10% of an undefined amount, rather than specifying a year as the basis for calculation – leaves the door open for short-term emissions increases.

The different pathways for China to achieve carbon neutrality between 2030 and 2060 could result in different amounts of cumulative emissions, says Myllyvirta. “What matters for the climate is the total amount of GHGs emitted into the atmosphere over time,” he says, adding that this is why cutting emissions fast early on is important.

So we should not criticize Australia here, but rather China, the U.S., Russia, and Russia as it is them that opposed to phase out fossil fuels.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

And India, don't forget India.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Well, we can try again next time. Let's build another metropolis in the middle of a tropical forest and send thousands of people with airplanes.

Ps: if the new city in the middle of nowhere doesn't have enough beds because they cutted trees too slowly, it's ok to rent some cruise ships to host the people. The neat part is that they're self sufficient, they burn oil to generate electricity

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I am not surprised. Nothing substantial and binding ever came since the Paris Climate agreement in 2015. Because the key word is: non-binding. No one will get punished for not meeting the climate targets. Nicaragua is right not signing it initially because they think the Paris deal did not go far enough. The world wide climate fund went to vanity projects of corrupt politicians and businesses because those projects qualified for "green initiatives".

Wake me up when carbon emissions actually decreased by 90% and the worst offenders are put in jail.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 22 points 19 hours ago

Oh so like every single other COP? It's always "we should probably consider beginning the process of starting to worry" getting fuckall results.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've been saying it for a while now, until proper action on climate action is taken, the social contract is broken.

Take back what you can from the capitalist class where you can safely and without harming anyone innocent. It's morally acceptable. This shouldn't be controversial.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

We should really just be making them fear for their life.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They should call it

COPOUT30

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 19 hours ago

Like the others have always been labeled afterwards.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago

Oh really?

Our overlords who've been working for decades to make us poorer just so they can enrich themselves show zero interest in saving the world from very preventable catastrophe, yet again, after doing the same shit for the last decades?

How surprising!

[–] s@piefed.world 8 points 19 hours ago

I knew that gold robot from Star Wars was up to no good