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    tech savvy ppl and non-techy ppl both dont like Edge, Bing and copilot

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    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Edge is actually pretty great. Bing…well, the image search is okay.

    [–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

    Don't knock Bing Videos, either. It's the best porn search engine in existence.

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    [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this is "tech" "savvy" people, not actual people who understand tech.

    The current version of Edge is literally just Chrome with extra bells and whistles.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Yup. This is the meme of a kind of person who is β€œtech savvy” as an affectation they use to adorn their personality. It’s nothing more, with no deeper thought involved.

    [–] YgestWefsid@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

    I just call myself a "guy on linux with a firefox fork" and nothing more to be honest.

    [–] burgermeister@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Not OP, but I have been meaning to talk to my Ubuntu admin about Intune on his systems so we can use conditional access on them.

    With how difficult it had been to get macs setup, I have a feeling Edge will be the only way it works.

    So in enterprise situations....I'd say "Plausible".

    Personally I mostly use Firefox on Linux, but Proxmox gui doesn't handle that so well...so for that I have an App-isized Ungoogled Chromium window.

    [–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Am an admin, funny thing about conditional access, we use various conditions but one is geolocation; we bar all logins outside of three countries relevant to our workers. We employed it mostly due to a continuous low-threat brute force campaign targeting a few exposed accounts that my data analysis had identified. In testing it out from Red Team’s perspective I quickly realized that conditional access will indeed prevent a login outside of the whitelisted countries, but it will gladly let the attacker know that the reason the login failed was due to conditional access and not an incorrect username/password. So all Red Team has to do is brute force the password and then VPN over to our country of operation and they’re in.

    [–] julien@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

    Where is Vivaldi?

    [–] Object@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Something about Microsoft UI just feels so off for some reason. Material UI, Apple stuff all feels good to use but clicking on a button in Microsoft UI is just... bad.

    [–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Windows-only users would never know, but people who've either used a modern mac or linux computer will understand.

    [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 2 days ago

    Or windows users that have been around 20 plus years....

    Really it is sad just how bad its all gone.

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    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It makes me think of Fisher Price toys.

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    yeah it does really feel plasticky in the worst way

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    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Tech savvy people like Duckduckgo, Duckduckgo uses Bing under the hood

    [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results.

    DDG uses a whole bunch of stuff, including feeding anonymized results through the bing API, but they've been largely driven by their own indexes for several years now after using Bing to bootstrap themselves.

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    [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 days ago

    You forgot the panel where the tech savvy people wash their hands afterwards

    [–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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    [–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    In my experience non-techy people just don't know what Edge and Bing are.

    Lol when our CFO called it "the wave browser"

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Which "non-techy people" are we talking about here?

    Nowadays some people only use smartphones or maybe tablets, and they might not know that. But most non-techy desktop users still use Windows and they certainly ought to know the default browser (and its search engine) on their OS, I would think.

    [–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I'm talking about people on Windows desktops. They don't know what Windows is, they confuse Office with Windows all the time, they go online through the "internet symbol" which is their default browser that they don't know the name of. Google is their default search engine and they've never seen any other search engine.

    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    If Google is their default search engine, they must at least be tech-savvy enough to have changed the search engine in Edge, or installed another browser (probably Chrome).

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago

    What I find interesting is when typically non tech savvy people start using things like Brave.

    Goes to show how shit the tech industry is

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

    i like edging

    [–] valtia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'm using Edge and Bing right now, on Windows 11

    clearly, either ragebait or Microsoft rewards.

    [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    if im using chromium, it's gonna be vivaldi

    [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Can it set the bookmarks bar to only show up on the new tab page yet?

    [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    yeah basically any bookmarks you put in your speed dial older show up on the new tab page

    Speed dial is not the same as bookmarks though

    [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Edge is just Chromium now (so worth hating still, but for different reason), and Bing has its uses. Hell, isn’t DuckDuckGo basically Bing?

    [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (15 children)
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    [–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Yup. Never understood the Bing hate, they got better years ago. DDG is a source in my SearXNG instance, does fine.

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    [–] tomiant@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago

    Did I tell anyone about that time that I use arch?

    [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    I know this is the wrong place for this but I like edge.

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Honestly, the preinstalled spyware aside, Edge is a pretty good browser. It's, like, Chrome but better

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Edge is a pretty good browser.

    Setting aside my requirements to minimize spying and avoiding big tech. I agree.

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 2 days ago

    Non tech savvy people don't care which browser they're using. A lot of them do actually use Edge, since it comes with Windows.

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