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The president’s Oval Office meeting with New York’s incoming leader is not open to the press.

Trump, 79, frequently invites reporters into the Oval Office for a front-seat view as he sits down with U.S. and world leaders, but, according to his schedule, the media was barred from his first meeting with Mamdani, the Democratic socialist 45 years his junior.

Their first face-to-face comes after Trump lobbed a series of nasty attacks on the political upstart who mounted an underdog campaign and went on to win the race to lead the largest city in the U.S.

Trump has blasted Mamdani as a “communist lunatic” and “not very smart.” He falsely accused him of being in the country illegally, threatened to arrest him, and warned that he would cut off money to New York if he won.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 hours ago

Mamdani walked in and cast Charm Person. Trump's WIS mod was never particularly high even in his best years.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He’s going to be the mayor of NYC. He has no choice but to meet with the President. Besides, he’s upholding a campaign promise to meet with anyone (see article).

After all the shit Trump said about home during the election, the shit the press secretary said about the “communist coming to the White House,” the absolute best thing Mamdani can do right now is nothing. Let these idiots fall over themselves backtracking and unsaying all the shit they’ve spewed. All he has to do is stand there with a smile and not say shit. Even if Trumps base never comes around on him, he was never going to win those people. He’s already won all he was ever going to win when Trump said positive things about him after the meeting. No need for him to say anything else. Just go back to NY, wake up tomorrow and get on with his life.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Why does a Mayor have no choice but to meet with the president? Governor maybe but mayor don't care if its one of the biggest cities.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 8 points 5 hours ago

I overstated. He’s not “required,” but it’s pretty common for the NY mayor to meet with the president after being elected. Mainly for all the reasons already stated. They may not like one another, but in both cases the voters chose their leaders, so they have to work in the same company as one another.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Ameancow said it better, but I wanted to add that new York could be hit with a hurricane next year. Or a terrorist attack like 9/11. Neither of those are likely, but if it happens, Mamdani wants help from the feds and if trump is threatening to kill him every week that becomes harder.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He has a larger constituency that many governors

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Only 12 of the 50 states have a higher population than NYC alone.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Because when you become the lead manager of a huge company's major revenue stream, you meet the fucking boss. If you're not going to work together with the larger company you are shutting yourself off from all the potential support of the larger institution.

Despite all the performative and not-so-performative bullshit the administration and trump spout daily, it's still the business of leadership. You can't not do your part just because the CEO is a dipshit. People depend on your decisions and management.

I really want to reiterate that what happens behind closed doors is a very different world than what we see reported on. Legal cases aside, it's largely performative and the Mamdani/Trump meeting behind closed doors should be proof of that. Whatever Mandani said was not his normal mask of optimism and cheerful practicality, he was likely much more serious and delivered a tone that would seem shocking, while at the same time managing to butter Trump up enough that the entire tone changed after.

The public on both sides would over-analyze the entire thing, every word and phrase dissected the same way they KEEP going after Mamdani about words and rhetoric trying to trap him into saying something. Watch again. Watch where that sack of shit reporter tries to drive up contention and points out that Mamdani has called trump a fascist or something and if that's still how he feels. Trump intervenes and saves Mandani from answering.

They made deals. And nobody on either side wants to see these two making deals. This isn't a bad thing, it just reflects how our media has distorted our world and how all of our emotions have been made priority over material outcomes.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Seems like Mandami got the Bubba treatment

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I’ve never seen trump that happy before

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I call my cat Bubba. So that means I’ve got him on his back and my face blowing raspberries in his tummy. That’s the Bubba treatment

This past few weeks have been awkward for me

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've never, ever had a cat that I would even think about putting my face anywhere near their belly. You are a brave person with an awesome cat.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s all him. He’s amazing. I can do anything to him and he’s like “yes please, oh that’s nice.” He likes his ass slapped… like hard. I can play him like a bongo. He will get up on the arm of the couch with his ass up and a look like “do it! Spank me meow!”

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Ngl I read this comment in my inbox and thought it was supposed to be an impression of Trump talking about Mamdani.

Totally forgot about the cat.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh wow, I’m cracking up now. 😂

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I think if you’re worst enemy doesn’t have blackmail pictures of you doing this you’re ok

[–] becausechemistry@lemy.lol 27 points 19 hours ago

I am once again begging people to not post headlines that start with “Trump, 79,” that doesn’t end with. Well. You know. The start of the party.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's called taco for a reason

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 5 points 16 hours ago

A tired taco

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't like it, with press present harder for Trump to bull some bullshit. Behind closed doors anything can happen. They could claim he tried to attack trump why he had to be killed. For fucksakes they called him a terrorist. No way he should be meeting the president in private.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I'm not into consperacy but you're right. On the other hand .... Trump is stupid enough to have him killed any day of the week

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Honestly, I think this is the best option. Nothing good would have come of their conversation being in public.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

100%, the American public, for as much as everyone complains about the state of politics, are not much better as a driving force for policy and good outcomes.

Because everyone can't keep their shit together and the most ill-informed voices now speak loudest, we're going to see more and more actual politics moving behind closed doors, for better or worse.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I think that’s fine, though. You don’t always need to see how the sausage is made. It’s only the fact they Trump is such an untrustworthy person that this is an issue. I trust Mamdani, though.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I disagree. I think Mamdani would have made a fool out of Trump while trying not to. He still will, but now we won't get to see it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You want entertainment. He wants to take the job seriously. The mayor of New York wants to secure some form of business dealing going forward and do right by his constituency.

When his hands are tied behind public image, he can't talk openly about a lot of things that would make the general public panic or not understand the meaning and context. We tend to forget or choose to forget that even the best politics is still public perception management.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

What good would have come from that? Trump would just go overboard with whatever fascist retaliation he can in order to compensate for his embarrassment.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago

He keeps trying to pass himself off as a smart man, and there's just no way to keep up that act if you've got an actually smart man talking to you.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why not? Mamdani would absolutely smoke him

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

He doesn't actually want to "smoke" anyone, he wants to secure his business, and that business is running one of the most important cities on Earth. Cities outlast people, outlast nations. Mandani is taking his job seriously enough that he doesn't want to have to manage his meeting with the head of the federal government through public perception.

He is far more capable of negotiating politics and deal-making than Trump, but in order to have any business relationship at all, he has to make compromises and concessions. This is normal and fine, but a lot of people are going to take it wrong. We have to be understanding of this fact, because Mandani WILL at some point do or say things that will cause concern or be misunderstood in the larger scope of politics.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Color me skeptical that anything good is actually going to happen when the fascist dictator comes out of that meeting singing his praises. Wish we knew what they actually discussed...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just don’t think that’s the purpose of them talking. It’s not meant to be a public fight between 2 people, which is what it would turn into.

I imagine Trump will possibly be more receptive to Mamdani’s comments in that private than in public.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I imagine Trump will possibly be more receptive to Mamdani’s comments in that private than in public.

In what way? Because I hate to remind you but Trump is a literal fascist.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's now after the meeting, go watch the press conference and tell me trump isn't absolutely smitten with Mamdani.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 16 hours ago

Well I guess I'll be eating my words I have no idea what the hell is going on here.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

In the same way that the 50 year mortgage guy got Trump on board despite all his aides and everyone else hating it. Hes not a hard man to trick.

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Yep yep. Putting a reality show brained narcissist in front of cameras is only a good idea if you want footage of a crashout

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The press secretary said the meeting speaks to the fact that Trump is willing to meet with anyone to do what’s right on behalf of the American people, but she didn’t let it go without attempting a dig at the mayor-elect and Democratic Party.

“I will just add, it speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that’s who the Democrat Party elected mayor of the largest city in the country,” she said

It really does...

Just not in the way she thinks it does.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

press secretary

Democrat Party

This is the fucking press secretary talking like a child. It's like hearing an adult that still mispronounces words and says things like "supposably" instead of supposedly. They also think it's some big own, but collectively, they all look like children and I want to see the press grow a spine and ask them why they do this. I mean, Donvict is calling them "piggy" and other insults anyway, they might as well ask about this as well.

Start shaming these motherfuckers, even over what is something others might call "trivial" - this is an orchestrated thing and has been for decades.

Imagine if every single Democratic politician, every single talking head, everywhere were to sync up on a misnomer for the Republican Party and start using that. It is not like it would not pass without comment, but for some reason, all these assholes, from the very top, always and constantly walk around saying "Democrat Party" with a shit-eating grin on their face. They know what they are doing, and NOT commenting on it is not doing anyone any favors.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I was so looking forward to this. Donny really is a party pooper.

:stale_popcorn:

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

taco strikes again

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Any Democrat or progressive worth a damn shouldn't meet with him on camera. He'd rather have sound bytes than actual productive conversation.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

On the flip side, folks have repeatedly shown Trump to be susceptible to being manipulated. Famously flipping back and forth on issues based on who had the most recent pleasant conversation with him.

It's distasteful, but an opportunity that shouldn't be skipped. Otherwise only the worst people get their turn at manipulating him.

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