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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago

I mean if you run on an operating system, you’re not really serious about anti cheat. You should require all of your players to buy your own hardware that is sealed in a titanium box. They should have to give a blood sample before each session, and they should have to be completely surrounded by webcams the entire time. Better yet, have them report to their nearest prison’s solitary confinement wing for a 100% monitored play session.

Let’s get actually serious about anti cheat.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 hours ago

If I need spyware to ensure I’m playing a game right, that’s a game I don’t need.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Dude should ask Linux players how they can actually play games with EAC and Battleye if that box is turned on, then they'll realize that none of the cheaters use Linux (if any at all). Most, if not all of them, use Windows with specialized scripts.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 9 points 5 hours ago

Arc Raiders was just deck verified

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

... Rust still exists? As in, the murder-hobo-survival game that was early access like, 10-15 years ago?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago

It's been polished a lot since then (they update every month), but yeah, it's still around and it's fun. Sucks that Alistair has this take tho.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Why hasn’t the amazing economy propelling AI industry fixed cheating yet?

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 37 points 7 hours ago

If the game Rust is what is keeping you away from being on Linux it might be best you never go to Linux. Just save us all the future headache, thanks.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Third rate game's developer says people who already have EAC working on proton are "not serious" uh....

[–] who@feddit.org 26 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

When we stopped support for Linux, we saw more cheat users exploiting Linux, than actual legitimate users. — reddit

That's curious phrasing. Did he expect legitimate users to stick around after support was taken away? Or does he mean that there were more cheaters than legit users before support was dropped?

That's not to say that cheating was super widespread on Linux, — blog

Okay, so his blog post suggests that it was the former, making his original argument really bizarre.

When we stopped supporting Linux, users made up less than .01% of the total player base, even if that number has doubled, or tripled, it's not worth it. — reddit

When we discontinued linux support in 2019, — blog

The Steam Deck was released three years later, and nearly four more years have passed since its release. The portion of gamers using Linux has grown considerably more than he imagines above, and continues to grow.

Enabling proton support would mean we're asking the EAC team to provide support for a whole other platform, which we fear would reduce their ability to support Windows — blog

That is a false dichotomy. Rather than assuming what the Easy Anti-Cheat folks would do if more support were needed for Linux, he should probably ask. I would expect them to respond to increased demand by hiring qualified staff, not diverting existing staff to tasks for which they are unqualified. This is how businesses grow.

For now, we're still weighing up the risks and will continue to explore options with EAC. Don't expect to see Proton support in the near future, but we hope to have it enabled someday. — blog

I think that's the most sensible thing he has written on the topic.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 21 minutes ago

By the way, even in 2019 having only 0.01% Linux players in a game that officially supports Linux feels abysmally bad. I'd wager it had Linux support on paper only and when you tried playing it would be an awful experience.

[–] exu@feditown.com 8 points 4 hours ago

EAC supports Proton, the devs only need to enable it. And if they think something is lacking compared to Windows, I'm sure they could get Valve to work with EAC on improving those aspects.

[–] umt@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 hours ago

I have no plans to play Rust, so no harm no foul I guess.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And nothing of value was lost.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

We have Rust at home.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Rust? That's a beverage in star citizen

[–] essell@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And what my car is mostly made of right now.

(It was brand new when Star Citizen was announced)

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 hours ago

I feel the same about GTA 6, which has been in development longer at greater cost

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Games shouldn’t be serious about anti-cheat.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Singleplayer games*

Edit: include non-competitive multiplayer too

[–] DesolateMood@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

Games should be serious about anticheat, it just shouldn't require a rootkit into the players computer

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The headline confused me for a second. I was like, aren’t they adding more and more rust to the kernel?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

RUST is a game, Rust is the programming thing. Maybe we need to normalize that in posting articles lol

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

Same, I had to double check the article lol. Rust next to the word developer was a sort of short-sighted phrasing.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

There is a personal element to this, somehow. The developer's relationship with Linux took a weird turn at one point and there's been a will-they-won't-they tension ever since.

[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are so many alternatives to these sort of games now. I am not sure it's a good idea to just give your players the middle finger like that.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 5 hours ago

Every single one of them is also better than Rust. Ark, Conan Exiles, that new Dune game, Palworld...

[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to get into Rust a few times and never liked it. One time I even played with a decent group of people and it still sucked. They can keep their game.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

I enjoyed rust by hosting my own personal whitelisted server for my friends and I to mess around on, that's my favorite way to enjoy the game. You can play on linux by disabling their anticheat on your community server (since the server just rejects the proton client with EAC enabled, you don't get banned).