Everyday I ask myself how the democrats failed to have his ass in prison immediately. We all saw him committing sedition on tv! They also literally had a mountain of evidence he trafficked and raped children. How do the democrats always fail the simplest task to hold anyone accountable?
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Because then they'd have to hold themselves accountable too. They're just as crooked as the fascists, they're just better at hiding it, and are being paid by people with different agendas.
I pray every day I see his obituary
Trump is a cartoon villain who should have nothing to do with serious matters. He should be gone. J.D. Vance scares me way more than Trump though, and he'd be the next mole to pop up after Orange Julius Caesar.
Vance cannot hold Trump's political capital.
Trump is "untouchable" because he has a massive share of political capital, the currency of how things move in government. In his case, it's a huge mob of feverishly loyal, armed patriots with the intellect of fenceposts. These are the kinds of power reserves that have built and destroyed countless nations, and it's why Trump gets away with everything he does and why the GOP has hoisted him up as the figurehead to implement all their dumb fucking ideas and back-room earmarks to funnel money to the corporate donors.
This power bloc follows Trump because they are charmed by someone who is both authentic and contemptable "just like average folks" in their eyes. He is openly resentful of everyone, he hates what he does, he hates the people around him, he spits on his own base and they love it. To them, it feels refreshing, it feels like a "real person" to their limited scope and perception of the world, and he validates their absolute worst impulses, and you can never underestimate the loyalty and commitment of someone who has their deepest fears or passions granted to them.
Now Vance... the GOP and Peter Thiel have been parading this guy around, desperately hoping that he can pick up and continue the mission as soon as Trump keels over. But it's not working. The base isn't openly scornful of him, yet, but they're truly not captivated by him, he talks like a politician, he talks too much, he smiles and laughs, he says all the right things at the right times. This is exactly the "Washington Deep State" vibe that they despise.
I'm not saying Vance won't be dangerous or cause a lot of problems, but he will be RADICALLY neutered in what he can get away with. He will be barely above full-on "Lame Duck" status for his entire term. It will be another status-quo, right-wing slop presidency that maybe starts a small war somewhere to drum up attention and funding for some contractors, then gets voted out by some popular liberal Democrat.
History is a flat circle. I've seen a lot of this before.
- If trump dies, Vance doesnt need to be elected or Trump's popularity
- The longer it takes for him to die, the more time he has to erode democratic structures that would prevent a technocrat like Vance from installing themselves permanently
Frankly I think we missed the window for the good version of him dying - especially if he dies abruptly in a way that could be spun into suspicion
Oh I agree, if Trump's body suddenly realizes tomorrow that it should have stopped functioning years ago and he just spontaneously turns to dust in the oval office, there will be about a week-long, nationwide celebration, but it won't make things better in the medium-term.
Vance isn't going to command the same level of political power by far, but the shit that's already been started (or ended, like USAID) will continue to wreck our society for years or decades, even if everything goes right, even if we had our glorious leftist revolution like kids around here seem to like to think will happen any day now, the damage is active and will continue to cause damage for years and years. The world and American policy are like slow moving boats, and even minor adjustments can take decades to have an impact.
Im not really talking about things like USAID, I'm talking about his consolidation of power broadly and the normalization of the abuse of presidential power
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and right wing lunatics.
"Shit fruit falls close to the shit tree"
Sir James Lahey.
When is the majority of this country going to grasp that we are dealing with an actual, real life traitor?
Is it going to be one of those things where it isn't generally recognized until way after the fact when historians/teachers/students are studying the time period?
It's pretty fucking obvious.
He INCITECD AN INSURRECTION. He is ADVOCATING FOR HANGING POLITICIANS FOR ADHERING TO THE CONSTITUTION.
Maybe when he sets off a nuke in Chicago … but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
The only people who would get mad about telling the troops to refuse illegal orders, are the people who plan to issue illegal orders.
The fuck is wrong with Americans?
If any other president had said the things he said over the past couple of months, the country would have exploded and a president either legally or through mass protest removed from office.
What's so special about this orange nutjob?
We are bathed in a Douglas Adams SEP field.
No one will do anything if is or might be Someone Else's Problem.
it's a bad combination of lazy, cowardly
Nothing is special about Trump. The American people are special. I know cause I'm one of them. Fuck this place. I love my country but fuck this place and all the narcissistic scumbags that live here.
I wish I could fucking tell you. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
It's been the downfall of empires before, and America isnt anything special. Just unchecked and unchallenged humans greed and corruption taking its next logical steps.
There have been tons of massive protests, the average American doesn't support this crap and they're doing what they can
The question should be the fuck is wrong with America's police officers, service members, judges, and lawmakers and other elected officials
He doesn't care about your protests. He literally created a video of himself shitting on them and declaring himself king. It works in functioning democracies, but walking down the street with a sign will not stop a fascist intent on absolute power.
What’s so special about this orange nutjob?
Nothing, really. He's not doing anything other piece of trash authoritarians haven't done before. And he's not doing it as effectively as many of them did.
What's special is that we live in a country whose populace is so ignorant and hateful that a high enough percentage of the population supports this basic ass bitch because he says basic ass hateful shit that he has remained protected by them.
The issue isn't Trump. Our society could have easily kept him just a whiny little rich bitch like all the other whiny little rich bitches. The issue is our society because we didn't.
Believe me. There is nothing special about this loser.
There is nothing special about him. Assholes like him are a dime a dozen.
The real issue is generations of brainwashing and propaganda. On a micro scale we are individuals with free will and personal responsibility. But on a macro scale, when we are looking at the population as a whole, it's so compleatly beyond people just being bad. They are like this because they have been conditioned to be like this. Taught to be like this. Turned into this.
I'm not saying that people are not responsible for their choices and actions. I am saying that the problem is so widespread that the we need to address the cause and not get stuck at just being mad at and blaming the individual.
American society now is the result of a fuck ton of social engineering by the wealthy elite trying to extract as much work and money out of the world as possible. We are living in the capitalist dream right now.
They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful?
Nah.
Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump's orders are lawful, because he's the president and a president can do anything.
So their issue would be that saying that isn't true, is unlawful.
Which is obviously hypocritical because they acted like Biden and Obama were Stalin and Mao level authoritarians and multiple sherrifs and other red state officials flat out refused to follow orders from the Fed.
By their logic now, all those people shouldve been hung.
But when Trump's out of office they'll change their tune again
If it weren't for double standards, the Republicans would have none whatsoever
Our standards are the best, folks. They're so good, they call them, you know what they call them? I know you know, the lying media knows, but folks they call them "double standards". Can you believe it? Standards so good they're double. And listen, when we put America First, our standards will triple, even quadruple.
Trump: “Hang them for sedition!”
Commentator: “That is of course nonsense. The President doesn’t have the authority to …”
Supreme court: “As the President is a sovereign, he has absolute authority to issue death sentences for any reason” (6-3 majority)
drump is going to get what mussolini got if we keep heading in this direction
He's already deserved it for a long time now.
Quiet, piggy.
if they had balls every dem politicians who could run for next election should say that they will pardon anyone who gets arrested or in trouble for disobeying illegal orders.
Set aside Dems for a moment. When will the media give any of these scandals any deserving attention? Bush, Obama, Biden got raked by the media for weeks for the slightest misspeak
They obviously won't... All the American media outlets are being consolidated under right wing ownership. To the extent we ever had fair reporting, that's over.
For context:
Half a dozen members of Congress who previously served in the military or intelligence community are urging service members and intelligence officials to disobey illegal orders that might be issued by President Donald Trump’s administration. Democratic lawmakers Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Sen. Mark Kelly, Rep. Jason Crow, Rep. Maggie Goodlander, Rep. Chris Deluzio and Rep. Chrissy Houlahan said the “threats to our Constitution” are coming “from right here at home,” and repeatedly urged the military and intelligence community to “refuse illegal orders.”
The video was posted on twitter, but I'm attaching it below.
Just more sensationalism to keep everyone’s mind off the Epstein files if you ask me.
A lot of political experts are predicting that this latest Epstein drama may actually have consequence.
Not the way we wish, we will never see Trump impeached, much less arrested, but it's very possible that we don't see real policy movement from Trump for the rest of his term. He is not going to be able to secure votes as his loyalists start to scatter into their own little power groups, each avoiding the burning, sinking ship that is the fallout of the Epstein falls.
It's not the justice we fantasize seeing, but it's a real good thing for the future of our country if it goes down like this.
And Reddit banned me for 7 days when I said this dude should get the death penalty.
If you haven't noticed yet, that's because it is a tool of the regime that exists to pacify and propagandize its enormous userbase.
and Dems need to tone down their violent rhetoric btw
krasnov out here trying to build a bigger distraction
He is afraid that people explain to the military the current state of the law? Like he hoped he could order them to do illegal things, and they would compüly, not knowing any better?
BTW: The Nuremberg trials started on this day 80 years ago. I hope you guys prepare your version of it then Trump is over.