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Defence secretary reveals details of recent incursions as he warns UK is facing ‘new era of threat’ from hostile countries

A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots, the defence secretary has said, as he warned the UK was facing a “new era of threat” from hostile countries.

John Healey told reporters on Wednesday the “deeply dangerous” move was being taken “extremely seriously” by the government, adding the UK would continue monitoring the ship and had “military options ready” should the vessel change course.

He said the surveillance ship had crossed in and out of the UK’s exclusive economic zone multiple times in recent weeks, not for the first time this year.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 17 hours ago

not much of a spy if they're giving away their position so easily

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots,

Then have itnpqy a visit to bikini bottom. Lasers can permanently blind people, if call that a direct military assault and an act of war

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 15 hours ago

It's still in international waters, unfortunately.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

They've been going tit-for-tat with flyovers and sail-bys for a while.

For the same reason Russians aren't in a hurry to shoot down an RAF aircraft, Brits don't really want to start a shooting war over some Russians with laser pointers.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ship entered the Brtitish Economic Zone. Which is still international territory.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Two Canadian Air force pilots had to be medically discharged after a Russian ship caused permanent damage to their eyes with a laser a while back.

Fuck the Russians.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

why are these ships not immediately impounded and the crew arrested?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because our political classes are corporate-whore sociopaths, who possess zero leadership value beyond public speaking and rubber stamping the will of a borderless, lawless, criminally-corrupt oligarchy.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

They fear a "diplomatic incident" that could escalate, I guess.

But Russia is already escalating like there's no tomorrow; while I'm still against blowing them up, I do not understand why this ship isn't now under British control. Unless they shoot first of course. It is tricky, but that trickiness is nothing new anymore and Europe should have come up with a strategy by now.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

So just sink them.
Accidents happen.
Next please!

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oopsie gotta eject and where's that airframe going? Oh my directly at that unsuspecting Russian warship? What shame.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tempting I'm sure, but they would be sitting ducks in the water after ejecting. Not something the pilots would consider worth risking.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The one thing you don't do is touch a us boat or a us pilot, if Russia did it would be on no questions asked.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The current president only likes service members who don't get captured.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bomb the ship. Stop taking their shit. The fascist piece of shit only understands strength.

[–] Pika@rekabu.ru 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As mentioned already, the ship was found in the British economic zone, not inside British borders. This means it was found in international waters, and bombing it is initiation of war.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if we just say that they're smuggling drugs?

Wouldn't work since Russia has the mean to respond, unlike Venezuela.

[–] card797@champserver.net 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Shooting lasers is an act of war.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Someone should tell the Americans.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How about we let them map all the internet cables, deploy drones over the airports and blow up some infrastructure instead?

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 23 hours ago

That's the losing spirit!

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Serious question: why are politicians so weak? We know Russian agents are entering EU thorough Belarus and Hungary, starting fires, shutting down airports and now blowing up railways. Why EU can't simply shut down the borders and deny entry to anyone with Russian passport? There are supposed to be sanctions in place so the economic activity between EU and Russia/Belarus should be non-existent anyway (except gas/oil but this is not crossing the border in trucks). WTF?

[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My very lay-person understanding is that generally there is a level of shit each country accepts, e.g. election meddling, hacking or taking of political prisoners as it is part of the "standard affairs" - and will respond to non-forcefully. (Please don't see me as advocating or trying to downplay these activities, they are abhorrent).

In order to respond with force or war, a lot of prep needs to go in to make sure that the action will be supported by enough allies to both achieve the goal/s and deal with any possible fallout from retaliation.

I believe the EU and its allies sees that a war response to Russian meddling may bring in China more actively into the picture and the US may not come to back them up (unless China decide to re-take Taiwan). OR they see the long-term economic damage to Russia as significant enough to achieve long term regional impact.

Therefore, the EU may not be confident of opening up conflict unless forced to.

IMO Russia's actions in the EU are a clear test of the EU's boundaries and willingness to retaliate.

I feel like if China is gonna get involved it'll be to invade Siberia for the significant amount of oil resource that is available

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One theory is putin is desperate to bait a nato attack he can spin as nato entering the ukraine war so he can retreat (or maybe escalate) while saving face.

Im not entirely convinced but its a solid enough theory

[–] tirednapstablook@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most politicians only care about funneling as much money to their donors as possible.

They keep getting elected because most voters are stupid.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder what would happen if people started just using water-dropping aircraft to dump tons of water on them. Maybe escalate to some type of really stanky water. Over and over and over and over again.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So water from the Thames then, yes.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or the Trump poop meme.

Just run massive planes over the Russian spy ships and dump manure on them.

“Whoopsie doopsie, our evil western planes are so bad that the hatch failed, sowwyy”

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If they don't cut it out with the lasers, I'm getting my slingshot.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russian spy ship, go fuck yourself!

[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 1 points 16 hours ago

Reddit moment.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

blow those fucking drunks out of the water.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What a bunch of fucking trolls. Same goes with China.

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