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[–] tio_bira@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Every day i became more thankfully for not live or visit u.s.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

More like a hermit crab.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Stein was SO close to sweeping every state. SO close!

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't know, man. So-called "Tea Party" Republicans have effectively taken over the GOP. You flip enough seats in Congress, and you'll create a new majority. As long as it starts with the people...you can change the system.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

MAGA is not the Tea Party

Completely different Christian extremist organizations.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

The Tea Party doesn't exist as a separate movement anymore. They were a racist reaction to Obama becoming president, and an act of populist rebellion against the establishment Republicans that were willing to compromise with Democrats. They were the trailer trash wing of the GOP, and they were wildly popular with their base for it.

They all became MAGA, as soon as Trump threw his hat in the ring back in 2015.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Tea Party is just a small circle inside the bigger maga circle.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tea Party? Where we are right now started with the John Birch Society in 1958. The only outcome of trying to work within the system is a constant shift to the right

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, clearly the right is more organized than the left, then. Because they aren't using magic to accomplish their goals. The mechanisms exist, we just need to start using them, instead of simply complaining about the fact that other people are better at using those mechanisms against us.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Uneducated people are pushed to the right by the right and the Neoliberals =/= coordinated"

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not coordinated by the uneducated people. Coordinated by the wealthy capitalists who want to perpetuate a system that exploits those people.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Then it isn't the Republicans who are coordinated.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

So, you think the slow progression to the right, is just a coincidence? That there's just some natural law that dictates the flow of policy in one direction only, and that it's just accidentally benefitting the rich and powerful, every time?

C'mon, man.

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesnt mean the right is more organized, it means the socioeconomic power structures favor right wing policies that work to dismantle what power the working class has ever managed to grasp. Capitalism is the root of the problem, and capital simply will not incrementally cede it's power away to The People through the mechanisms built to preserve said power.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It doesnt mean the right is more organized, it means the socioeconomic power structures favor right wing policies that work to dismantle what power the working class has ever managed to grasp.

That's not an accident. It's also not a natural phenomenon. It is deliberate. That's what makes it "organized". Generations of intentional effort have gone into building and maintaining it.

Capitalism is the root of the problem, and capital simply will not incrementally cede it's power away to The People through the mechanisms built to preserve said power.

"Capitalism" is not a conscious entity. "Capitalism" doesn't "do" any of those things. People do. We choose the systems we live by. The problem is that some people have taken the time and made the effort to commandeer those systems for their own benefit, by exploiting the rest of us.

That doesn't make us helpless. Collective action gives us power. We just need to use it.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...what do you actually think can happen? A revolution and implementation of a new system from the ground up? Please do explain, how do you think that'll get accomplished?

Go outside for a bit, maybe get offline for a while.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hows that incrementalism working out for you? Your party has convinced you a slow process results in progress. The only difference over the last 50 years is democrats have become the things 1980s democrats hated

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How's that revolution working out for you?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Approval ratings for both right wing parties are at historical lows, so it appears to be going pretty well.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

How do low approval ratings translate to revolution? I could equally claim those ratings for incrementalism, proof that the progressive voice has become more empowered.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My party? And what is that? I'll vote for the least bad candidates but I don't have a party in American or European politics. The DNC is 90% as bad as the RNC.

Please study history a little, and share the percentage where revolutions resulted in a net positive in the same generation. I'll wait

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Your lesser evil that you were willing to vote for is your party, which means you are complicit in any activity that they engage in, even that lesser evil that you believe exists.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you know how anything works, but I'll encourage you to keep learning about the history of revolutions, since you seemed to just ignore that point.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Being lectured by someone supporting the party that keeps making the same mistakes over and over and over again doesn't hold any weight

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Don't listen to me then, look it up for yourself

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It may come as a surprise to you that other parties and other countries exist. It may also come as a surprise to you that there are very many examples in history where the violent overthrow of an existing system lead to one clique of assholes getting swapped out for another. I'm not aware of any where this actually resulted in a better society.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Spoken like a thug.