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I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yo you kids can't behave, I will look this now, it's Easter and I don't want to have this burning here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, trump appointed 3 supreme court justices, who will be there FOR LIFE.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks to leftists who wouldn’t vote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~Assassinate~~ 'em, you say?

No, just kidding.

I'm just someone watching from Europe, getting a little concerned 😔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same here. Watching from Europe, and going "hmm, I think we had a few very bloody revolutions to solve these kinds of problems"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who doesn’t vote immediately loses the right to complain for the next 4 years.

Don’t like it? Should’ve done your duty and put in a vote.

Fuck you, fence sitters

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok I'll be voting 3rd party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I’ll blame you as well if Trump wins

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll blame Biden for refusing to make material compromises with leftists and progressives in order to get the votes he needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll blame you when the nazis legislate me and my brethren out of existence. You could have helped to stop this, but instead you decided to sit by and throw a tantrum like a fucking child.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You could help stop this by fighting Biden instead of fighting me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This will be the most important election in the history of the united states. You have two choices, Dictator, or Democracy. A no vote is a vote AGAINST Democracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do I hate the two party system? Yes. Do I hate the fact that centrists like Joe Liberman who literally killed universal healthcare in the US are revered and embraced by Biden's party? Yes. Do I hate the fact that Democrats are always dismissive of liberal ideas and often act like complete jackasses and can't admit that when Obama was running there were a ton of Clinton supporters that didn't vote for Obama in a blatant act of pure hypocrisy? Yes.

Do I fucking hate Nazis and Fascist? Fuck yes.

Hence why even if I don't like the Democrat running, I'll vote for them and honestly, Biden isn't too sucktastic. Except for kyrsten sinema, she can fuck right the hell off forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So many dumb Americans here not voting. Cutting off your legs so you can hold the moral high ground. Moronic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Step 1: defeat Trump Step 2: help reshape Democratic party

Because the fact is, if we don't do step 1 first, we'll have our work cut out for us the next four or more years just being back in 'The Resistance'. Which you know isn't going to make the Dems more liberal, it's going to pull them to the right as more dissatisfied Trump voters finally peel off.

On the other hand, the more resounding of a defeat we can dish out to the GQP and MAGA, the easier it will be to send them into the wilderness to regroup politically so we can focus all of our energies on the Democratic party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, you've spelled it out plainly: there is no vote option to end the U.S. funding of Israel's genocide in Gaza.

I can either make a vote that won't end it, or I can make a vote that won't end it (and may actually make it worse, as you alluded) and will also lead to significant negative consequences for many groups of people here.

If there’s a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

Not just trans, but homosexual, non-white, non-religious, women.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

There are several options if you refuse to vote for genocide. You have just decided you don't mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liberals would rather blame leftists than actually fight fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Leftist here. What are you doing to "fight," brother?