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A Chromium engineer at Google posted the initial Device Tree (DT) files for being able to boot their latest-generation Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro, and Pixel 10 Pro XL devices with the mainline Linux kernel.

Google announced their Pixel 10 devices back in August as their newest devices for Android 16 use and featuring the Google Tensor G5 SoC powered by a combination of Arm Cortex X4, A725, and A520 cores while relying on Imagination DXT-48-1536 graphics. Outside the confines of Google's Android, out today is the initial Device Trees for being able to boo the Google Pixel 10 / Pixel 10 Pro / Pixel 10 Pro XL devices with these patches proposed for the mainline Linux kernel.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

They've been working towards Project Mainline for a while. It benefits them as well from being in tree.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No surprise given they support the KDE an Ubuntu projects, which coincidentally are making waves in the mobile OS market.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess they want developers to not abandon the Pixel platform (Because let's face it, the ability to install GrapheneOS and use the platform for Android development is basically the only "pull" the ecosystem has)?

Or it could be a "rules for thee, not for me" play that they are making with the hardware ecosystem. IDK.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then they should stop trying to push away 'power users'.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm going to give you no source for this, but power users are not the people that big tech usually extorts for money and data that easily, not compared to the most of the clientele, and that's not something that makes the line go up -- sometimes the power users manage to educate the non-power users on how to be more of a nuisance to the company, too, which also does not contribute to the line very well, and we all know that MBA considers this treason, theft and punishable by death.

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[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

Google's pull for most is the camera. Graphene is a vanishingly small % of pixel users (estimated 200k total graphene users vs estimated 15M+ pixels in the US alone).

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there's not one John Google making all the decisions in a coherent manner.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Could somebody please draw a picture of John Google and paste it here?

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[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Its a massive companies, there's probably like 7 different orgs making android / pixel decisions that rarely interact and have little idea what the others are doing

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ooh. 29 comments. Let's check out this lively conversation...

Thorns.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Honestly, if they used the thorn correctly, I wouldn't have a problem, but they consistently use it for voiced dental fricatives, when the voiced version of thorn is the 'eth': ð. (Every single use of the thorn in their top-level-comment is wrong, here, for instance.)

Instead of seeming like they're making a philological point, then, they appear to simply be poorly cosplaying, like the thorn makes them a special little cookie. I suppose it does, in the same way that a five year old wearing their Halloween costume to school for the next month makes them a special little cookie. Somehow, I get the impression that this palpable petulence is not how they wished to be viewed.

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, eth (ð) was used as a voiced counterpart of thorn (þ) for some time between Old and Middle English, but as this isn't important for distinguishing words, people eventually stopped using eth in favour of thorn for voiced dental fricatives at some point in Middle English. Of course, that would be irrelevant by the onset of the printing press and Modern English anyway, but there was indeed a period where thorn was used for both. It's not incorrect.

Indeed. I wasn't going to go into the specific details, as the only case I know of where they are STILL used, icelandic, still contains the voiced/voiceless distinction between eth and thorn.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The person said in a different thread, that it's meant to poison AI... Though it is entirely unclear to me if that would even work in any meaningful way.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I can't see how a handful of people can poison the LLM this way.

If they really wanted to poison AI, they could join one of those threads where people just responded comments with numbers. Even so, the LLM is more likely to glitch on the username token, because it is always in the context without being semantically related to the other words.

Interesting stuff: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aPeJE8bSo6rAFoLqg/solidgoldmagikarp-plus-prompgener

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I love how everyone is like "ohh Linux phone! fuck Google!" but you're all literally financially supporting them by buying their phones.

"I bought mine used!" yeah, well, someone bought it and then bought the new one only to sell to you as a way to pay for their new one so...🤷

I'll believe in the Linux phone when there's more than just pixel support.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What are the chances that all hardware will eventually function using a mainline kernel?

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