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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

trump wants Newsom as an opponent, just like he wanted Cuomo in NYC...

Newsom's already tried to pivot to maga, like, almost year ago he had Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his podcast, telling them how smart they were and how Dems need to be like them.

Don't fall for WWF style public displays. There's plenty of time to find alternatives to neoliberals

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have listened to every single Newsom podcast. Worst thing I would say about him is he comes across as inauthentic. I roll my eyes every time he says “I appreciate that”. If he can’t break that stigma, he is destined to end up like Hillary Clinton.

As for having people like Charlie Kirk, a lot of the hate that I hear about him is mostly taken out of context.

For instance, when he says how smart they are, he’s not wrong! Charlie Kirk built a massive following from nothing and made a genuine impact on elections. If you are not willing to recognize that, then you are never going to be able to counter this.

You don’t have to agree with your opponent, but you do have to respect them.

Personally, I have enjoyed his podcasts where he talks to opposition the most as it gives me an insight into their way of thinking without having to go to conservative friendly media. I never heard of Charlie Kirk before this, and ended the podcast feeling like I understood his followers more (and also hating Kirk’s guts).

He often gently gives pushback, but he’s not there to debate. He’s there to learn. And I have learned as well.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk built a massive following from nothing and made a genuine impact on elections

You do not need to be smart to be charismatic. Equating the 2 is wrong to begin with.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It takes more than charisma to build what he built.

And recognizing the political intelligence of a MAGA politician is not the same as pivoting towards MAGA. You should be able to learn from them.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It takes no more than average intelligence. I know it's not the same, I'm saying that he's still not smart.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re entitled to your opinion. I think if this were true then there’d be millions of Charlie Kirk’s.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Literally no. It still takes a lot of dedication and charisma. Not to mention right place right time

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is very inauthentic, and his political views are heavily influenced by popularity. He's definitely a political animal. That can be good in some ways, but but in this era, where the opposition has moved so far to the right, governing from the center moves the Overton Window to the right. He'll probably win the democratic nomination, but I'd rather see someone with more authenticity that stands for something, rather than someone who moves so much with the political winds.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t necessarily agree that he would govern from the “center”. But he also doesn’t give his political opinions on issues very much in the podcast. So I’m honestly not sure what he stands for.

I will be interested in seeing his comments about specific issues during his future campaign.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

classic, Talk shit about the Democrat, has no viable alternative

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The game is rigged like that, kid. This is what Ol' George was saying about a two party system when America was a nascent country. Its too late now. You can't unfuck the meal. You have to throw.it away and start over. Preferably before Thiel and the Rationalists get their elite thrones.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

You can absolutely make incremental change without burning it down.

just like voting for Jill Stein, burning it down to re-create it from scratch is almost guaranteed to leave you with something far far away from your ideals

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Doubling down on stupid has worked for him so far. The trumpanzees can't get enough stupid!

Also, the more people focus on the stupid, the less they focus on what they should be focusing on:

the Epstein files

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uhh actually I’ve been keeping track since 2016 and he’s actually Quintupling down on stupid

[–] Sunschein@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Damascus steel of stupid.

Dumbasscus steel