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[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I was prepared to leave this open in case it was sufficiently generic and not US centric, but it looks many comments assume it's about the current US political situation. Locking. Rule 6.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In many countries, failure to pass a budget triggers a new election

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And it is in danger of happening soon

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not really. Forcing an election now would result in pretty much the exact same outcome. All the parties know it. Worst that will happen is the Green and NDP abstain, the Cons will vote against, and it will pass.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We call them Double dissolutions in Australia. It happened once.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It’s worth noting that there was CIA involvement

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

You're so close to realizing that you don't have a government that represents you, or it's citizens in general. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on the consequences of failing to pass a budget. If you just keep using last year’s, it’s fine.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Who's going to make them give up power?

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes! I believe we should have snap elections if the budget doesn't get passed. If you have 6 years or 6 months left, it doesn't matter. We can do elections within 2 weeks. We don't need 2 years for an election season. If the local community thinks their rep did nothing wrong, then they will be reelected. If not they will be replaced until a budget is passed.

We need a way to replace people that aren't working instead of just dealing with them for years. If you can't do you job then you are fired, unless you have a close connection with your local. Then you could explain the situation.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Its election day tomorrow, so after that they'll magically come to an agreement in a few days.

Yes, I agree. When people don't do their job, they get fired. The people shouldn't reelect a single one of those fuckers, but unfortunately people only vote for colors around here.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

By what?

Also, that would be motivation to pass bad budgets that nobody agrees on.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Going off the example of other nations, the previously agreed budget allocations (from a prior year).

Special elections could be invoked if there is complete deadlock, but that is unlikely to be a successful policy outside of nations that already have it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the us is far to rigid for that, and neither side wants to give up power to have a new election or government/coalition. the gop and lesser extent the dnc fights tooth and nail to prevent expanding both houses SEATS, and the scotus, smaller groups are easier to control and manipulate than a really large HOUSE, or senate.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A system that requires all parties to agree government spending every year is fucking moronic tbh.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You should see how other countries do it.

(Spoiler: like that. Consensus)

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just used to the UK version.

The government of the day sets the budget. Each year they announce things like tax rises/lowering etc but funding doesnt just stop.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

See: every other country.

France has had three elections in quick succession, if I remember right, and all from failed budgets.

(Really it's because the people pushing the budgets are arguing like a bag of cats, but the budget failing is how they're back to elections)

Canada's shortest administration was like 24 hours.

Countries where the elections aren't mandated to last 4 years get kicked out when they suck.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Disagree, but only because I think there should be non-negotiable items in the budget, including paying your workforce.

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Careful what you wish for. We could end up with something worse than now. How many times have we said, it can't get any worse. It's always getting worse

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Agree

These geriatrics and their incompetent nepo babies need to be removed from power

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago