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For all your boycotting needs. I'm sure there's some mods caught in lemmy.ml's top 10 that are perfectly upstanding and reasonable people, my condolences for the cross-fire.

  1. [email protected] and [email protected]. Or of course communities that rule.
  2. [email protected]
  3. [email protected]. Quite small, plenty of more specific ones available. Also linux is inescapable on lemmy anyway :)
  4. [email protected]
  5. [email protected]
  6. [email protected] and maybe [email protected], lemmy.one itself seems to be up in the air. [email protected] says [email protected]. They really seem to be hiding even from another, those tinfoil hats :)
  7. [email protected]
  8. Seems like [email protected] and [email protected], various smaller comic-specifc communities as well as [email protected]
  9. [email protected]
  10. [email protected]

(Out of the loop? Here's a thread on lemmy.ml mods and their questionable behaviour)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

OpenMW's official Lemmy community has been on lemmy.ml since 2021, way before lemmy.world existed (and most other instances, too), and way before there was any inter-instance drama. It's becoming increasingly likely that it's not going to be a suitable long-term home, but we'd be much happier if we could migrate the existing community rather than start from scratch with a new one. Is there any way to do that yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IMO organizations should self-host their official communities. If you're going to move, it ought to be to something like [email protected].

In addition to the obvious benefits of having admin control/being able to avoid moderation drama imposed by others, it also means you could have more than one community: maybe !openmw for general discussion, plus !modding, !development, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Rather [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], … etc.

So much more flexibility for organizations to build structured communities!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

+1, larger community projects really should try to spin up their own Lemmy hosting on whatever infra they already have for message boards

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We love to be the home of smaller communities, but for sure, any larger ones should look into running on their own setup. If you need help, drop us a line!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

[email protected] has less than 150 subscribers, so it's definitely not large. We're already swamped with infrastructure work for the stuff we already self-host, so I don't think we'll be running our own Lemmy instance any time soon.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The world news community on .ml is just Russian and Chinese propoganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Interesting list

For another thread on this topic: https://lemmy.world/post/16235541

About [email protected], I posted on [email protected]: https://lemmy.world/post/16273266, the instance and community might be a bit abandoned.

For comics, isn't [email protected] an option?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

“Asklemmy.ml” just asked about if anyone had been at any important event televised events.

Mmmm. Guess what.

I mentioned Tiananmen Square 1989: INSTA-BAN!!!!

It would be funny if it wasn’t such a horrible thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Subbed to them all, thanks for this outreach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Please dont use lemmy.world alternatives. World is a much bigger problem in terms of centralization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Has too much lemmy.world. Downvoted.

(Half kidding. I hope it's obvious which half.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Everyone should defederate from lemmy.world, the Reddit of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Feel free to create an elaborate post on [email protected] or [email protected]

I'm sure people would read it with great attention

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it possible to migrate my account to another Lemmy instance? Or would I have to start over?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You can migrate your subscriptions in the settings (import / export as a JSON file, easier to do on a computer).

You would lose your comments and posts history, but you can refer to the old account on your new account so that people curious would know it's you. Also, if you keep the same name and avatar, most of the people wouldn't notice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The views of .ml mods have not affected me. I don't really check my subscription feed, only /all or /top->day, therefor im still exposed to all those other communities.

The only instances that I've noticed are missing are porn related, and as an asexual, I don't have an interest in them. If I did, I could just visit a different site, like pornhub or w/e

Not all .ml users are tankies, or communist, or foss enthusiasts. I'm just a guy who likes memes and tech

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The way that I see it, the issue with lemmy ml's administration and moderation is not quite political in origin. It's about transparency; and I think that this wall of text that I wrote about how lemmy dot ml handled ani.social shows it well, as the dispute in question was not political in nature. (I can abridge it at request.)

With that out of the way, most of your suggestions boil down to "use lemmy.world instead". I don't have anything against LW's administration, but I think that it's foolish to concentrate people and activity there even further, it defeats the point of a federation. That instance is already 40% of the MAUs, and hosts the largest comms using Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

With that out of the way, most of your suggestions boil down to “use lemmy.world instead”.

It's where big replacement communities happen to be, that's all there is to it. Avoiding centralisation is a good thing in general but "tired of .ml mods? Here's alternatives" isn't the right time to go for it I think. Maybe the admins can come up with a scheme to round-robin disable community creation or something, to spread things out. Also, community migration is in the pipeline software-wise that would help a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OOTL on this one, what happened on lemmy.ml?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Criticizing China on lemmy.ml goes about as well as evangelizing crypto on awful.systems. Join an instance that shares your values or roll your own. Know your audience or get the hammer.

It's like a huge chunk of the population out here has never experienced a forum before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It is far more than just that. Removing comments is one thing, mass-banning from many communities at once despite never even having commented in them at all is another, but the real issue is using database manipulation to delete the log entries as to why the comments were removed after the fact.

Even if unintentional, which strains credulity, this is some spez-level stuff going on, edit: where we have the option to either take what a single person (who does not seem inclined to follow their own stated rules) offers, or else we can leave. Many are choosing the latter, and like the Rexodus, making the situation known to others as well in the process.

"Criticizing China" was merely the spark that lit the match, with the situation offering proof of what apparently people have been suspecting for some time now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So, I’ve been on lemmy.world since I joined last year and everyone’s saying it’s too big. Lemmy.ml is the next-largest so I’m conflicted. What do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

lemm.ee has been great, very level-headed administration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Join literally any other server.

That's the point of distributed networks they're supposed to be distributed if 80% of the content is on two servers that's not distributed. People should move off ml and world regardless of their politics simply because it's not a good idea to have everything all in one place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Lemm.ee is the second by monthly active users

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Didn't we do this yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's good to have regular outreach. I just subscribed to the linux community from this one.

The other post also has me considering moving my account to a different instance. There were some compelling arguments against centralizing on lemmy.world. (I don't strongly disagree with the moderation here but I do somewhat disagree with centralizing admin power like on reddit.)

I wouldn't mind seeing these regularly. But maybe it would be nice to have someone make specific accounts for that purpose so you can easily block them out of your feed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I wouldn’t mind seeing these regularly.

Feel free to join us on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I guess this more a top 10 list than our extensive thread

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