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For months, investigators would have to wait to issue subpoenas or interview witnesses to gather new information,” the authors write, adding that Garland “had chosen to impose a very conservative interpretation of what DOJ officials called the 60-day rule,” urging prosecutors to avoid taking public investigative steps within two months of Election Day that involve candidates in that election.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Garland and Biden essentially let trump get away with it

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Garland is going down in the history books as a key enabler of this regime, and he's somewhat responsible for everything happening now.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Probably an unpopular opinion, but if RBG had retired early we would have a better Supreme Court than we do now.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely, she contributed by not stepping down during Obama, but that was a lesser contribution. Also Bitch McConnell would've just held up her confirmation forever too.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

Then all the decisions could be 5-4 to get fucked instead of 6-3 to get fucked!

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I started to think Garland was a deep mole for the far-right GOP years ago, his inaction was beyond incompetence, it's almost as if he WANTED to run the clock out for any meaningful prosecutions.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 weeks ago

You mean someone picked by Obama to be a supreme court justice because he was a republican was also terrible at being Bidens attorney general...

But yeah Biden really showed the GOP with that pick

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Weirdly enough, there's still a lot of people that seem to legitimately believe Biden did everything he was able to....

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden was a doddering old coward too afraid to take the necessary steps to save the country he swore to protect. He deserves to be forgotten.

Fuck Joe Biden.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

He deserves to be forgotten.

No. He deserves to be remembered.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The IRA and Infrastructure Acts were the biggest investments in domestic renewable energy in history, and that's a huge positive. Other than that... yeah.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They were the biggest because they were paused most of Trump's years...

trump's were going to be shitty, so Dems wouldn't vote for them.

So Bidens should have been over 4 times normal to make up for it...

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Renewable energy tech wasn't mature enough during Obama or Trump 1 to become economically competitive. Regardless of how you want to frame it, it's still true.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Regardless of how you want to frame it, it’s still true.

Well, you're literally only caring about how big the total number... But now just the "energy tech" mattered?

By that total cost metric, republicans wanted it to be higher, so are you mad it wasn't?

Like, if the only metric we care about is the total cost...

Biden rejected multiple ones for being too high, so your argument that he should get credit for how high it was when he was the one that lowered it..

Just doesn't make sense. But now you've already committed to that being all that matters, are you going to just pick a new one and insist that's all that matters and somehow Biden gets all the credit?

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

ok, I don't even know what point you're trying to make, but it's not important enough to keep going with you

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

but it’s not important enough to keep going with you

So...

The only reason you replied to my hour old comment, was to tell me that you don't want to reply anymore?

Buddy...

In that scenario you just don't make the comment, I don't need a notification from someone that I won't get another notification. I assure you no one is waiting in baited breath to hear back

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And that’s been dismantled. So what did he do, really?

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It hasn't though. There are tons and tons of projects that are continuing or have been completed. I don't know the exact percentage, but not everything was immediately reversed. I'm personally benefitting from some of those programs still.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're also living in a democracy that's rapidly deteriorating into a fascist dictatorship. Is pointing out that at least we got some solar panels out of the deal really what you want to be doing right now?

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The OP claimed Biden wasn't able to get a lot done. I made a point that he did a lot for climate change mitigation. It's not just residential solar, it's industrial solar, wind, and hydro. Also research programs, non-climate stuff like Medicare prescription negotiation, etc. (you can look it up).

Also, yeah America is quickly becoming a dictatorship. Two things can be true ya know...

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I read the conversation. I'm asking if this is the part of the equation you want to focus on. It seems pretty irrelevant to me, especially considering the fact that you could very easily argue that all the climate change mitigation Biden managed to push through is more than offset by the damage Trump is currently doing, and his election is a direct result of Biden's failure to protect democracy. Either way you look at it, Biden screwed the pooch.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah in this one comment on this one post this is the part of the equation I want to focus on. Anything is better than nothing, and most people (doomers) don't seem to understand that anything done is going to help vs doing nothing.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. Some of the projects had gotten funded and started before Trump took office.

The laws you referenced has still been dismantled.

If you think the personal benefits from them outweigh the harm from not arresting an insurrectionist… I got nothing.

The fact is, Trump is destroying America and Biden did nothing to stop it.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean Garland was a major problem, but sure

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Who nominated Garland to USAG? to whom did he answer to?

you act like Biden had no power in that relationship. Garland's job was to ride herd on the DOJ. Biden's job (as far as this matter goes,) was to ride herd on Garland.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah absolutely Biden did. He sucked in a lot of ways, I'm just saying in terms of IRA and Infrastructure he was good.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kind of half get the concept, they don't want the precident to be say... if you are afraid of losing the election to an incumbent, send the FBI to raid their house. Publicly announce you are looking for child pornography and claim you'll announce the results after the election.

Something that whether trump runs again or not, and if there's another election is almost certainly going to happen (to protect the election for whoever is going to protect trump from his crimes after his presidency, whether that's trump, vance, one of his kids or whatever).

Same time there was fricking obvious cases here. It's not like fishing expeditions like trumps launching at his political opponents right now. and to top it off it doesn't even matter again because moderates are so worried about setting a precident that the other side can use to justify their horrific actions, without realizing that the extremists, don't give any fucks about precident. They'll cite it when they have it, but if they don't have it they will just steamroll ahead anyway.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

By not setting that precedent, though, they have instead set the precedent that it’s okay to steal extremely sensitive and highly classified materials and get away with it. And also set the precedent it’s okay to riot if you lose an election.

When you don’t your job out of fear of being political… YOU ARE BEING POLITICAL.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This has been what has always pissed me off. Follow the law to the letter and avoid being political, and avoid inaction due to politics, which is the same fucking thing in the end, to your point.

Play hardball with Criminals, regardless of party affiliation. It literally should not matter what side of the aisle you sit on.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

like. it took them over a year and a half just to get the warrant to raid maralago. And they never got everything back.

They didn't search a closet because the door was locked. They scheduled the whole raid with trump's protection detail. If it were almost literally anyone else, we would have been cuffed up and walked out the house before they even began searching, stuffed in the back of a truck and formally arrested when they found the classified shit.

and we're not talking about low level things getting leaked on warthunder, here. we're talking high level sources of espionage in places like Russia. We're talking nuclear designs and capabilities. things that are literally the most heavily classified materials the government has.

if it had been any one else, Trump would have been raided jan 21, 2021, not august 8, 2022, and he'd probably never have seen daylight again. but eh. sure. "lets not be political"

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 7 points 4 weeks ago

I posted this comment just yesterday and it fits perfectly here, so I'm copy pasting it.

How is that an insult? In fact the only thing I would say is incorrect is the word 'failures', since I think they (the liberals, be it the Democrats or the equivalent in other countries) haven't failed at all, quite the opposite, they've played their part masterfully to bring us here. And before the liberals around feel attacked, this is not a 'both sides are the same' comment. That's not how controlled opposition works. It's more 'both sides work together, even when they do very different things, to achieve the same goals'. Just an example. While Trump's DoJ is prosecuting people only because they are political opponents, Biden's didn't prosecute actual criminals (specially an orange one) because 'they were political opponents, and it's a bad look'. They disguise their inaction as civility, when it's clear as water they're doing it to further the plans of the people paying them, which is the same privileged class that's paying the other side. Even this side of the pond, without a 'first pass the post' system, with lots of parties, coalitions, and what not, it's still exactly the same play.

[–] eareetator@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

No shit. We all watched it happen in half speed. Fuckers enabled this dystopia

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Concept of """independent DOJ""" was still a thing until 2025. And these fucks STILL bitch about political persecution! I'll show them some goddamn political persecution, it's called a guillotine for anyone who looked the other way during the insurrection.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

ll show them some goddamn political persecution, it’s called a guillotine

Sometimes, the best way to treat a cancer is with a blade

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't excise cancer soon enough, surgical removal is no longer an option and you either kill it with chemicals and radiation or die trying. I'm up for a good time.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

If you don’t excise cancer soon enough, surgical removal is no longer an option and you either kill it with chemicals and radiation or die trying.

I think you missed the French metaphor.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Acting on a mix of principle and caution

dEmOcRaTs SuCk!1!@