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Pragmatic Leftist Theory

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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.

Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.

This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.

If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.

Rules:

-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.

-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.

-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.

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[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Gonna copy in my comment from the other thread bc I want this video to reach as wide of an audience as possible:

Struthless has a really good video about this. I've seen it happen to the young men in my life first-hand. To my siblings, my friends, and - yes - even to myself at one point. And that hole is a hell of a lot harder to climb out of than it is to fall into, and I'm very lucky to have had some good, caring people in my life who helped me to do it. An uncomfortable truth that we on the left must face, is that this is an issue that will only get worse the longer we pretend it doesn't exist.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

What a positive message in this video!

I really like how he explains how to turn an "undesirable trait" into a positive one! Too easy to learn what not to do, and too difficult to find what to do. Positive messaging is needed! Thank you for sharing this insightful video!

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Dam these people have no idea how to reach men. The 2nd response of "I was so open and honest with him and talked to him about feminism anf he pulled him self out and did a gender studies class" is bordering on completely unbelievable.

People are influenced by what's around them. To influence men you need to be in male spaces and be normal so you can pushback on stupid right wing shit when it sprouts up.

That means being in crypto, gaming, fighting, shooting, car spaces. They are already dominated by right wing culture so you have to choose your battles and not push back to often and do it in a rhetorically efficient way.

Its really on men to do this since there are very few women in these spaces.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't believe these stereotypes are very accurate today. Do we have data? I'm failing to find more than anecdotes online.

Why are 12yo hyping crypto?

Is the average gaming culture that right-wing dominant, and why should it be so? Biggest games are roblox, Minecraft, and fortnite. It's surely not CoD for this cohort. Minecraft in particular seems like it need not be conservative coded.

Edit: I've found some evidence that this reverses causality; the manosphere targets this demographic with paid advertising. They know they can exploit a vulnerable population.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 weeks ago

I see 12 year olds in mma spaces talking about sports betting, crypto and Joe rogan. People are getting on the internet younger and younger. They know all the memes and watch the same fight commentors. They watch commentators who harp on the white replacement theory and other rightwing stuff.

Gaming isnt right wing dominated by there are games/servers that are right leaning. Minecraft has had some and roblox has a ton. There are a ton of gaming creators that lean right and influence their audiences.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I live in a city full of people who spout this shit like it's the word of god.

It's absurd. and they are totally blind to how they come across or how alienating they are to those who aren't on their 'every man should be required to take women's studies' bullshit. they live in a hugbox and if you ever challenge them... they simple label you evil.

They are the leftist MAGAts. They don't care about people, they just care about feeling morally superior to someone else.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago

Suppose one were to advertise left leaning content creators to this demographic. Who should it be? Is there anyone for whom this makes business sense?