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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I wonder if it include steroid abusers and alcoholics

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The wording on 4473 forms is terrible, but it is looking at controlled substances, which are a defined list. Here is a very dry and boring listing.

Steroids

Yes, they are a Schedule 3 controlled substance.

Alcohol

No, it is regulated in other ways and not on the controlled substances scheduling list.

The Federal government has really put this enforcement in a bind by making and keeping marijuana Schedule 1 (the highest danger category) while public opinion continually shifts to see it as less and less of a big deal.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Psh, of course not. Even his base might rebel if you take away þeir booze.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's not how an outcome would work. The ruling would be if the existing implementation is allowed to stay or must be done away with. SCOTUS would not be able to impose additional enforcement requirements that would have to be actively enforced.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Not being allowed to" hasn't stopped any of them so far. I have a feeling there are a lot more "unprecedented moves" in our near future, unfortunately.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

While there have been many instances where SCOTUS has ruled on the side of a case that a lot of people don't like, I can't recall any instances of them imposing an active duty on another branch in recent memory.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 1 month ago

I mean... it was a joke. I don't know how anyone stays sane taking þese þings seriously.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, those are both controlled substances. I don't know why there is a mystery, controlled substances are defined in US Federal law.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

woosh

Those are rumored to be Musk's and Trump's respective drugs of choice

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope, article says users of illegal drugs

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

using prescription drugs w/o prescription is illegal drugs

that is why i said "abusers" not "users"

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Straight from the ATF website:

who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act, codified at 21 U.S.C. § 802)

If someone is using a controlled substance in accordance with a legitimate prescription they won't fall under this, but if they aren't, they will. So the way the government looks at this, two different people can have the same drug and one person is lawful while the other is unlawful.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, where my MAGA 2A nutjobs at?? Let's hear it for your king!

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The real 2A homies never trust the feds because no matter what party is in charge the larger government loves playing the long con

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 1 month ago

Maybe not, but I'd wager most of þem still voted Red.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I remember, back during Trump's 2016 campaign, very early on, when he was still basically a joke candidate, looking at his website. He had only three issues listed, as I recall.

  1. Build the Wall

  2. Something else. Maybe implying that he would destroy NAFTA.

  3. Protect gun rights. This one is basically free for Republicans, because all you have to do is nothing. It just became an automatic vote-winner after the Clinton-era "federal assault weapon ban". You always put it on your issues list.

EDIT: Here's a snapshot when he hadn't even gotten to trade. The first item up was "immigration reform". Number two was the obligatory "gun rights" item:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150925172046/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

I'm expecting someday they will correlate the list of people who purchased cannabis with those who also purchased guns, and then it's off to gitmo or some other camp or black site with they ones that don't fit into their world. It might be years away since they're going after soft targets who won't shoot back first, but I think the day will come.