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nobody in the GOP or in the presidential office gives a shit
The protests are not only aimed at them. They're an opportunity for us to see in person how many others there are like us, to feel our power and to get people who normally sit on the couch taking their first political actions.
It's a process of movement building.
If the GOP didn't give a shit, they would simply ignore the rallies. Not spend several weeks futilely trying to brand them as "hate America" rallies or posting diarrhea-bomber AI slop.
It gives encouragement to those in government and the law to fight back.
That’s a starting point at least. Liberty, Diversity of tactics
Hmmm… maybe. Maybe not.
This wave of protests is unique, because it’s drawing out thousands and thousands of people who have never been to protests before. It’s putting those people in touch with local organizations and organizers that are trying to push back- and that’s the most important first step
Right now we are all in algorithmic silos designed to keep people separated and isolated. If you break through that and get people to show up, consistently, and maintain the momentum you can build an actual movement.
In addition to that, it shows people they aren’t alone. It shows them there are people trying to push for change.
It’s a hell of a lot better than bitching on the internet and doing nothing else.
Sure, but they also have to go out there and take down fascist resources. To this day, not a single ICE facility has been taken down, in the 22 years the Gestapo got made. Teslas are still up, Starlink is still up. Flock & Rings are still up. Heck, all the Nazis are still up.
Showing up that you care is nice, but without political action, it's a political tantrum.
fuck this guy
Yes, unpopular truths can cause aggression, hehehe. Did I get your upvote?
*opinions
Wild that just like on Reddit, actual unpopular opinions get downvoted.
I agree though.
Normally, I agree. It's hard to look at the last 20 years and conclude that protesting accomplishes anything meaningful.
In this case they do serve a purpose, which is to create widespread irrefutable evidence that sending the military to occupy US cities not only illegal, but wholly unnecessary.
The fact that you've got sooo many downvotes proves that what you're saying is intolerable to many..
I think you're fundamentally right, that the left is assuming that the right obeys group-pressure the same way that the left does and that is a bogus assumption.
Social-assertion can't derail the complete-national-highjacking that's being carried out in the US.
But the left can't understand that: it's unthinkable.
As I've said before, elsewhere, effective pressure, would be using private-investigators to build evidence of authority-criminality, then hiring lawyers to prosecute ( because establishment NEVER allows accountability against itself: it'll NEVER prosecute its own crimes ) the crimes that cases can be built solidly for.
Not mass-social-assertion.
Getting convictions would be the kind of pressure that would have had a chance at changing the outcome of this.
Trump's rule will result in destroyed Americas by the early 2030's.
So long as NOBODY ever gets to be important like him, then that's his "high-score", it's "how he won".
There are 3 categories of game:
- Postive-Sum game: win-win alliances
- Zero-Sum game: competitive-narcissism
- Negative-Sum game: competitive-nihilism.
All the people who're presuming that only the Zero-Sum game motivates everyone, are half of the problem: they're incompetent at understanding the motivations of other players in our world's game!
As "John Braddock" stated, in the book "A Spy's Guide to Strategy", IF someone's playing a negative-sum game, & destroying you AND them is the intent, AND you are presuming some other-category of motivation in them, THEN you're incompetent in understanding or dealing-with them.
You don't understand their strategy, therefore you are incompetent in understanding your-own strategy's actual options.
Trump's playing mixed zero-sum & negative-sum game: so long as nobody significant lives after him, then he won. The greater the destruction, the higher his score.
The left can't understand that, & therefore they keep playing by rules that are figments-of-their-own-imagination, and NOT actual.
Which, of course, obliterates more & more & more of the remaining-opportunity, until it's all gone, & mass-butchery's being enforced.
Status-quo doesn't protect us from what they're doing: it will fail, in a tipping-point, soon.
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No more than your nihilistic cynicism, fool.
it isn’t cynicism it’s reality. we need to do more than protest. i hope we are all aware of that.
What makes it cynical is when and how you are bringing up this point.
I can't remember the last time I met liberal protestors who showed up to a No Kings style rally with the vibe of "We did it! We can stop fighting now! Gosh that sure was easy to win wasn't it?". Pretty much everybody understands this is a long multi-layered battle at this point if they aren't MAGA. There are many ways to fight and NOTHING about yesterdays No Kings protest sold the idea that those other methods aren't necessary, you are the one projecting that aspect onto it.
Like... who are you even aiming this at?
i made one comment. i’m not the original commenter. nothing i said implied i thought those things. i simply want as many people as we can to realize it.
we need to address the pessimism and not shut it down. it is valid. there is a tremendous amount of work to be done and some of it is very dirty. coordination is a barrier.
100% upvoting this. I find its the opinion of the folks that don't want to feel bad about doing nothing. So far your score indicates its a popular opinion or that most folks voting don't know how this sub works.
I fear you are right.